[HPforGrownups] Re: To the Extreme

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 165127

Snow:
On to the subject matter, Neville has a background where he was
suspected, very early, of being a muggleborn. Not a squib, since at
least one of his parents was magical, but "all-muggle" (is written in
my book), which would mean that...?

Magpie:
I don't think he was ever suspected of being Muggleborn--that would indicate 
his family thought he wasn't his parents' son, which is never in question. 
Is Neville called "all-Muggle" in the first book? Because Squibs haven't 
been introduced yet, and I would guess JKR used Muggle instead so we'd know 
what Neville meant. Later he's referred to more as "practically a Squib" I 
believe (I think by himself).

There certainly is a belief in the WW that Muggleborns are inferior. It 
doesn't seem to conform to reality at all, but it's a known belief.

Snow:
Ron being exactly on par with Harry seems to be a bit over the edge
to me...just look at the first flying lesson.

Magpie:
I think Carol's referring to grades there, since they had similar OWLS. 
Harry does have talents that Ron doesn't have, but in many areas they're 
fairly even.

Snow:
Draco got an O in potions and I really don't recall where Snape
didn't help him in that. Where is it implied that Snape didn't help
Draco and he received this grade on his own?

Magpie:
Carol means that you take your OWLS on your own and they're graded by a 
committee, so if anyone wanted to claim that Snape gave Draco grades he 
didn't deserve, he couldn't have on the OWL. Draco's OWL grade indicates his 
skill on his own.

Snow:
When the Felix Felicis was the award, as far as I recall, Hermione
would have been the next in line to achieve the award and not
Draco...muggleborn wins again.

Magpie:
I don't recall Harry being able to see where every single other person in 
the class was at (I may not be remembering), but regardless we know that 
Hermione is the best in her class and has beaten Draco in every exam first 
year. That doesn't mean Hermione's being Muggleborn is what made her better 
than Draco. Draco got a better mark on his OWL than Harry, who is Halfblood, 
but I don't think that proves the "Pureblood wins again." It just means 
Draco the individual is better in Potions than Harry.

Snow:
Why can't a squib work in Arthur's area of expertise even if he is a
non-magical product of a wizard? Arthur has never veered from the
truth a bit on occasion.... ;) ...especially for a fellow employee.

Magpie:
Though as he's called a warlock seems to indicate he's not a Squib.


Snow:

The only thing I haven't already responded to would be the twins and
I remain bound to my theory that not all Weasley's are Weasley's.
Dumbledore's parentage is up for grabs but I would lay odds that he
is muggleborn.

Magpie:
Not all Weasleys are Weasleys? So you mean you have another theory that 
counters the straightforward idea that the Twins are both very talented and 
also Weasleys and therefore Purebloods? How do we know any of these people 
fit their given blood designation then? It seems like we've got as much 
evidence that some of the Weasleys aren't Weasleys as we have that Draco is 
really Muggleborn and Hermione's really a Pureblood.
-m