Bathroom Scene - A Different Perspective.

[quick_silver71]

No: HPFGUIDX 165199

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "colebiancardi" <muellem at ...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Neri" <nkafkafi@> wrote:
<snip>
> > On the contrary, it seems to me that it is Harry who is doing 
better
> > in Slughorn's class, not the rest of the class doing worse. It
> > definitely sounds like Harry was getting much better results, not 
only
> > in respect to the other students, but also in respect to his own 
past
> > results in Snape's class. This implies that it was Harry who was
> > suddenly using improved instructions, and not the other students
> > suddenly using degraded instructions. I conclude that Snape wasn't
> > including his own tips in his directions to the students.
> > 
> <snipping the rest>
> 
> colebiancardi:
> Snape required an "O" level to get into his NEWT classes.  Draco &
> Hermione got "O" to continue on to the 6th year.  Harry & Ron did 
not
> get "O" and they had not intended to take Potions in the 6th year,
> because Snape told his class he didn't take anything less than 
an "O"
> level.  However, Slughorn does take "E", so that is why Harry & Ron
> got into Sluggy's class.  So, Hermoine & Draco did get high marks in
> Snape's class.  I don't know how they are fairing in Slughorn's 
class
> - I am sure they are still getting high marks, but Sluggy is all 
about
> Harry & his natural talent, which it isn't.
> 
> Since we've read that Snape admonishes Harry for not reading the
> instructions on the board, I can only conclude that what Snape 
writes
> on the board are the improved instructions.   Harry is getting 
better
> results in the 6th year because a) Snape isn't teaching Potions and 
b)
> he has the HBP's notes.   He outshines the rest of the class because
> he has Snape's notes, whereas the others don't and are dealing with
> the straight text.
> 
> colebiancardi

Quick_Silver:
Actually this touches on something that I've been wondering about for 
a while...how good is Harry at potions? 

See most people seem to be coming down on the side of Harry stealing 
everything from Snape's book and taking credit for it (which is 
totally true IMO) but I'm not convinced that that is the whole story. 
The whole point of the HBP potion's book is to highlight the 
connection between Snape and Harry...indeed both HBP and OotP contain 
hints of the similarities between the two. The writings in the HBP 
book contain potions improvements and spells that seem to DADA in 
nature. Now we're told by Hermione in HBP that Harry and Snape sound 
mighty similar when the talk about DADA. Since the other pillar of 
the Half-Blood Prince seems to be potions, at least in my opinion, 
for the Harry/Snape duality to continue it seems reasonable to assume 
that Harry actually does have some natural talent in potions. 

Even after Harry hides the HBP book and is unable to use it in class 
Harry states that his work "suffers accordingly"...if JK wanted Harry 
to be a total fraud at potions why not say that he dropped to the 
bottom of class (which is where he was at when he entered it)? 

Quick_Silver (who's just thinking out loud)