[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and Dumbledore on the Tower: A Defense of Snape

[Jeremiah LaFleur]

No: HPFGUIDX 165291

> Eggplant:
> > And then there is the revulsion and hatred etched into the harsh
> lines of Snape's face as he murdered Dumbledore, that's a real problem
> too; it just doesn't sound like a good Snape to me. <snip>
>
> Carol:
But when have we ever
> seen any such feeling for DD on Snape's part?

Hickengruendler:

I always thought the "hatred on revulsion" as a hint towards
Dumbledore's man Snape. And the reason is exactly Carol's argument
here. Why should Snape *hate* Dumbledore? I see no reason.

Let's say Snape is indeed evil and fooled Dumbledore either all the
time since his supposed return to the good side, or he switched sides
again at some point and fooled Dumbledore since then. Then why should
he hate him? Having disrepect at him, yes. Secretly grinning about that
old trusting fool, maybe use the opportunity shortly before his death
to gloat a bit. (We all know that Snape is far from being above such
behaviour). But why should he hate him? That he killed Dumbledore is no
prove of any hatred. Did Peter Pettigrew hate Cedric Diggory? Did
Voldemort hate Frank Bryce or Bertha Jorkins? I don't think so. These
people were killed because they way in the way/useless, and Voldemort
wanted dispose of them. JKR did not overdo it here, in having Peter a
look of revuslion of hatred in his face, when he killed Cedric. Because
Peter has no reason to hate Cedric. Just as I see no reason for Snape
hating Dumbledore. Quite in contrast, I would say. If Snape showed
happy feeling the moment he killed old Albus, I would argue that it
would speak much more against him, than the expression of revulsion on
his face.
Alla:

That's easy though. Pure speculation obviously, but DD may have forced
Snape to do something he did not want to do.

Take your pick. Dumbledore may have some leverage over Snape when he
forced him to keep his mouth shut after the Prank. Now we all know that
Prank is a huge deal in the series, we also know that Snape revealed
Lupin's condition the second he had a good chance to do so and not
encounter DD wrath.

OR Dumbledore may have forced Snape to go back to spying when he did
not want to.
Now that is of course more OFH! Snape or out for whatever reason Snape,
than purely evil one, but still, would not Snape hate Dumbledore if he
would want to leave Hogwarts and do whatever, when Dumbledore forces
him to constantly risk his life?

And now Snape has to go back to Voldemort permanently, because old
fool just won't die.

Again, those are obviously speculations, nothing more, but it is no
problem for me at all to imagine that Snape hates DD.

JMO,

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Jeremiah responds (with no hatred or revulsion in his eyes):

When I read that sequence I wondered about what was going on through Snape's
head. (Not that ever will figure out how JKR invented Snape's thought
processes... They've got to be bizare and probably very angry...lol)
However, I digress.

I have always interpreted the moment not as a single event with Snape but
with a silent dialogue between Snape and DD. I think they are communicating
and since I believe in Snape's desire to rid the WW of LV (therefore
DDM!Snape, kind of) I see DD revealing to Snape the knowledge of the
Horcruxesas well as the events surrounding the last horcrux discovery.
Snape, though loving the Dark Arts and respecting them, mostlikely reacted
to the idea of a Horcrux the same way that RAB would have (i.e. with
revulsion and a desire to destroy them). I think Snape was repulsed by the
idea.

That's the scenario I see running between DD and Snape.


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