[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and Dumbledore on the Tower/ Blood on DD face

[Deborah Krupp]

No: HPFGUIDX 165354

Bart wrote:
                                  
 Let's see if we can give a list of the key questions about Dumbledore's death:
 
 1) Is he really dead?
 2) Is he completely dead or just mostly dead?
 3) Was he dead BEFORE the AK spell was cast?
 4) Was the proximate cause of death the AK spell?
 5) Was it a real AK spell, or a fake covering up the real spell?
 6) How did he get levitated over the roof?
 7) Was he actively and irretrievably dying before the AK spell was cast?
 8) Whose orders was Snape following?
 9) What was the effect of the poison he had taken (it certainly was poison, whehter or not it was DEADLY poison)?
 10) Why was there blood on Dubmbledore's face?
 
 Can anybody think of more?
 
deborah wrote:
I am not certain the green potion was poison.  I don't think it was a health tonic, but it caused Dumbledore to behave in a strange way and made him very thirsty.  

As Dumbledore told us, Voldemort wouldn't have wanted the one retrieving his Horcrux to die, at least not right away.  Voldemort would have wanted to see who it was and how he managed the task.  Consider for a moment that Harry couldn't conjure water for Dumbledore.

Anyone else think that lake was filled with "Draught of living death," the first potion Snape introduced in Harry's first potions' class?  Could this have played a role in the events that followed?  If Dumbledore's death were being "stoppered" would draught of living death have had less effect on him?  Clearly, Dumbledore is already borrowing time somehow.

My thought on the green potion is that it actually was a Horcrux.  I know we are supposed to believe the locket is the Horcrux, but, and this is a big IF, if Dumbledore were part of RAB, (Rubeus, Albus, Black) or if Regulus Black retrieved the locket and handed it over to Dumbledore (are Regulus and Orion actually dead, or hidden under Dumbledore's protection - remember he was confident he could hide Draco and his mother), Dumbledore could have released the soul part back into the potion, hoping that Voldemort himself would come drink it.  Which ties into my idea that Dumbledore actually wants Tom to live, and only to vanquish the dark lord, but that's another thread.

Obviously, with his own death impending, Dumbledore could not take the chance of leaving the potion Horcrux there, and had to drink it himself allowing it to be destroyed with his own death.  He knew immediately it had to be drunk, and did not even try to get rid of it in a different way.  He took the locket to protect Regulus, so if Voldemort were to return, he wouldn't start looking for him and get suspicious.

I am absolutely certain Dumbledore is really and absolutely dead.