On lying and cheating/ Harry's thoughts processes in HBP

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 165404

> > >>Valky:
> > <snip> ... [Harry's]concerned with what Snape and Draco are up 
to; 
> > he's also concerned with what DD has to teach him, and 
he's         
> > concerned very strongly with the welfare and happiness of 
his      
> > clasmates and friends, this is what he's concerned about, he's 
not 
> > even that worried about Quidditch ... <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> I don't see this Harry at *all* in HBP.  It's Hermione, not Harry 
who 
> keeps track of who's died.  Harry blows off Dumbledore's mission 
to 
> get Slughorn's memory.  Harry *does* worry about Quidditch (that's 
> what he first exclaims about when Snape gives him detention).  And 
> Harry spends a *lot* of time worrying about wanting to kiss Ginny.
> 
> Yes, Harry does think and worry about his Voldemort mission, but 
not 
> to the exclusion of everything else.
> 
> I just don't see the angsty, I'm going to die tomorrow, no need to 
> study because *I'm going TO DIE!!* Harry you describe.  (Actually, 
> Draco more fits that profile, blowing off school and quidditch for 
> his mission.)

Alla:

Oh, I totally see that Harry that Valky describes, absolutely. Now 
granted he worries about other things well, but I guess I would 
totally put his thoughts about Prophecy and his mission as occupying 
him a lot. Even if he does not talk about it all the time, which 
really has only do with his academic cheating as much as Valky 
describes - that it is not what Harry is primarily worrying about.

"But, sir," said Harry, making valiant efforts not to sound 
argumentative, "it all comes to the same thing, doesn't it? I've got 
to try and kill him, or ___"

**************

"That one of us is going to end up killing the other."said 
Harry, "Yes"

but he understood at last what DD had been trying to tell him. It 
was, he thought, the difference between being dragged into the arena 
to face a battle to the death and walking into the arena with your 
head held high. Some people, perhaps, would say that there was 
little to choose between two ways, but Dumbledore knew - and so do 
I, thought Harry, with a rush of fierce pride, and so did my 
parents - that there was all the difference in the world" - p.512, 
HBP.

Alla:

I cut the quote rather arbitrarily here - cannot type up two pages, 
did not mean to miss anything which may seem important to other 
people, just too much to type, but you get the gist of my argument.

Harry sounds plenty angsty here to me, and this seems to me as one 
of the important points in the book, which again does not say to me 
that cheating is right or something, just that academics may indeed 
not be the most important thing on Harry's mind, that's all.


> Betsy Hp:
<SNIP>
>> Though, to be honest, Harry knows what he's doing is a form of 
> cheating and lying.  It's why he doesn't verbally share the 
Prince's 
> notes with Ron (to avoid Slughorn's catching on), and it's why he 
> doesn't relish the "potion's genius" title.  It's all of his 
listie 
> parents who keep twisting things into a "not *my* son" direction. 
> <beg>

Alla:

I truthfully do not understand what you meant by your last 
sentence. "Twisting things into not my son direction"? What does it 
mean?