[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape and Dumbledore on the Tower/ Blood on DD face.

[elfundeb]

No: HPFGUIDX 165414

colebiancardi:
which actually brings up a good point. If DD was
killed immediately when Snape AK'd him, then DD would have been flung
off the tower & hit the ground with such speed & force that DD's body
would be flat as a pancake with lots of blood, guts and gore splattered
everywhere.

So, based on that, I still believe that Snape released DD from whatever
was killing him (for me, it is the cursed ring that did it) and DD
controlled his own fall because he was still alive, although very weak
and dying. I believe DD died after he reached the bottom of the tower.

Debbie:
I believe Snape killed DD with an AK.  When Snape arrived on the Tower, he
took in the situation, he must have realized that he needed to kill DD to
fulfill the UV.  For DD to have died from some other means, saving Snape
from having to carry out the UV, would IMO seriously detract from the pathos
of DDM!Snape; it's just a deus ex machina.  In any event, even if DD was
already dying because of the potion in the cave, I don't see how Snape could
have known that.  As for the It does not matter whether he used an
Unforgivable Curse or simply blasted him off the tower; either method would
tear Snape's soul.

Now that I've absorbed the forensics lessons, I think I have an explanation
for DD's condition on the ground that is consistent with the AK.  After the
AK, to preserve DD's body, Snape may have executed a nonverbal spell
(perhaps at the moment that DD seemed to hang suspended in the air) that
allowed the body to fall slowly over the battlements and to the ground far
below.  This would have placed him on the ground at an odd angle, but
without trauma.  DD himself used this spell when the Dementor attacked Harry
on the Quidditch field in PoA.  If DD had been alive when he reached the
bottom of the Tower, I doubt his arms and legs would have remained at such a
strange angle.  And while Harry wipes a trickle of blood from DD's mouth,
canon does not state that the blood was fresh.  A thick enough trickle might
not have been fully dry.

As for the inconsistencies between the various AKs that JKR describes, I
don't find them significant.  Substantively, it does not matter whether he
used an Unforgivable Curse or simply blasted him off the tower; either
method would tear Snape's soul.

Debbie
who recently saw The Departed and is sure Martin Scorcese would argue that
DD wasn't bloody enough to have fallen from the Tower without the assistance
of a slow-motion spell


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