On the trivial and the profound/Harry and HBP book

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 27 18:32:40 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165505

> Magpie:
<SNIP>
> Harry still knows that he's lying by ommission whenever Slughorn 
> says exactly what Harry is doing and what Harry is demonstrating. 
> And that's not some huge crime that's worse than murder. But I 
don't 
> understand why it's being denied as if it's insulting to Harry 
crazy 
> talk either. That's what I don't get. I've agreed that there's 
> nothing wrong in Harry studying the book, I've never suggested his 
> main reason for wanting to keep the book is to advance his academic 
> reputation. I've said that that's a side-product. He even gives it 
> up when he thinks using it to do better in class might put the book 
> itself in danger (suggesting keeping the book isn't dependent on 
> keeping up his performance). But when Slughorn gushes over what a 
> natural he is at Potions, how he understands Potions so well and 
> gets great ideas based on his own knowledge of Potions, perhaps 
> inherited from his mother, when he praises Harry to the other 
> students as being better than they are on an even playing field, 
> Harry knows that's not true and let's Slughorn think that. That's 
> the part I don't understand denying or being defensive about.
> <SNIP>

Alla:

I think we are probably starting to talk past each other again. Am 
not Valky of course, so if I am wrong she will correct it.

Again, can speak only for myself, but I do **not** see Valky denying 
anything that you wrote in this paragraph and if I may add, neither 
do I deny anything you wrote in this paragraph.

It was my impression that Valky was denying **other** parts of your 
argument ( and if that was the case, I agree with her as well).

Like for example in this paragraph you wrote that you never suggested 
that his main reason for keeping the book is to advance his academic 
reputation, that it is a side product for you.

Well, all can I say - great, I agree with it, but this not the 
impression I got from your other posts on the subject. Sorry that I 
misunderstood you, because I thought you were arguing that advancing 
his reputation IS the main reason Harry keeps the book, one of the 
main reasons anyways. And that I completely disagree with.

You are saying that this is not the huge crime worse than murder. 
Great, we agree again, but Betsy in this thread argued exactly that - 
that Harry lying to Slughorn **is** worse than murder. I am sorry 
that I misunderstood her as well, or did not understand the joke.

So, what I am trying to say, I really have **no** argument with 
anything you wrote in this paragraph, but I did not realise that this 
is what you were arguing in your previous posts on the subject.

JMO,

Alla







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