Did Voldemort make use of a Horcrux already?
Annemehr
annemehr at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 28 18:28:05 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 165547
Inge queried:
> As most other subjects, this has probably been discussed earlier,
> but I'm wondering if maybe Voldemort already used one of the 6
> Horcruxes which he created.
>
> What makes me ask is parts of the following speaches from Voldemort
> in GOF, chap The Death Eaters
>
> 1) (p 562): "And then I ask myself, but how could they have
believed
> I would not rise again? They, who knew the steps I took, long ago,
> to gueard myself against mortal death? They, who had seen proofs of
> the immensity of my power, in the times when I was mightier than
any
> wizard living?"
>
> and later
>
> 2) (p 566): "I was ripped from my body, I was less than spirit,
less
> than the meanest ghost... but still, I was alive. What I was, even
I
> do not know... I, who have gone further than anybody along the path
> that leads to immortality. You know my goal - to conquer death. And
> now, I was tested, AND IT APPEARED THAT ONE OR MORE OF MY
> EXPERIMENTS HAD WORKED... (my highlights) for I had not been
killed,
> though the curse should have done it."
>
> Ok, to me it appears that at the time Voldemort was hit by the
> backfiring AK, he may have "died" and lost the soul-piece inside
> him, which was at that exact moment replaced by one of the
Horcruxes.
>
> Too far off?
>
> Inge
Annemehr:
Well, it's my understanding that the soul-piece that was still inside
Voldemort when the AK hit him *was* the vapor that spent all those
years in Albania, because it was tied to Earth by the pieces in
Horcruxes. That vapor-in-Albania one was the soul-piece that
Voldemort knew as "I". (I'm almost sure JKR confirmed this in an
interview somewhere, but I couldn't find it.) On the other hand, he
never seemed to know that the Diary had been destroyed; I take it
that this is because there is no self-knowledge in those detached
pieces -- so that, bits of Voldemort's soul they may be, but they are
not *Voldemort himself*.
On the other hand, the GoF quotes that you mention above make me
think that Voldemort had tried other means of cheating death
*besides* his Horcruxes. For one thing, if DD is to be believed
(yes, I know, "if"), the DEs don't know about the Hxes, and for
another, "one or more experiments" sounds like he tried various
*types* of things rather than just meaning multiple Hxes.
Reading your post, I remembered this bit of the post-HBP
Leaky/Mugglenet interview:
"The one that I wondered whether I was going to be able to get past
the editors was the physical condition of Voldemort before he went
into the cauldron, do you remember? He was kind of fetal. I felt an
almost visceral distaste for what I had conjured up, but there was a
reason it was in there, and you will see that."
I wonder if the reason LV was able to get that fetal body was the
result of some other of his "experiments." Even though, it seems
like there is already too much to deal with in DH without adding that
in.
Annemehr,
hoping that the people are right who surmise that the resolution of
the Hx problem will take rather less page time than might be expected
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