Broken potionvial and Harry expectations WAS: Re: Bad Writing?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 163345

> Lupinlore:
> > And yet, as Alla points out, Harry's prospects would have been 
ruined
> > save for the heavy-handed plot manipulations mentioned above.
> 
> Magpie:
> Well....as much as I agree that an unfair teacher can have much 
farther 
> results than just not liking class, I don't know that we can 
really talk 
> about Snape's ruining Harry's career through his unfairness. It's 
more like 
> Snape's ruining the career of any student not getting an O in 
Potions, 
> because its his higher expectations for NEWT classes that would 
have kept 
> Harry out (which seems to be okay by Dumbledore, just as 
McGonagall is 
> allowed to only accept E students and above etc.)
><SNIP>

Alla:

Well, of course we cannot say for sure. I was responding to the 
argument that what Snape does in the much talked about incident does 
not really matter, since everyday grades do not matter for fifth 
years. That Harry's career would not be ruined anyways, no matter 
what Snape does to him during fifth year.

Of course we cannot say for sure that Harry would have gotten O with 
different teacher, but I do not buy that we can say the opposite for 
sure as well.

So, I was basically just pointing the possibility that maybe, just 
maybe Snape unfairness stopped Harry from performing his full 
potential, certainly not a sure thing, just a possibility.

But if it is true, then the assertion that Snape unfairness  could 
have ruined Harry's career IMO stands.

I snipped the piece about Slughorn favoritism, which of course took 
place there, no question about it.

Was it fair per se? Of course not, it was not, although Slughorn did 
not know that Harry used Prince book, so I believed that 
academically he thought he was pretty fair.

BUT absolutely there is no question in my mind that Slughorn was 
favoring Harry as Boy who lived as well. As I said, per se it is not 
fair, but within the story, as nice slap in Snape face, I believe it 
is just fine.

I mean, Slughorn even plays on Snape line in the first lesson, no?

Snape took points for Harry's "cheek", Slughorn gives Harry's points 
for his "cheek".

I loved it.