Killing the soul piece if Harry is a Horcrux (Predictions, Wishful Thinking ..)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 163432

Carol:
> And if Harry has to be killed to defeat Voldemort, exactly how is
> that supposed to work? If Harry!Horcrux dies first, he can't kill
> Voldemort. If Harry!Horcrux "kills" Voldemort but is still alive
> himself, Voldemort will become Vapormort and the process will start
> all over again. *If* Harry is a Horcrux and is actually carrying a
> soul bit rather than merely some of LV's powers, then he will have
> to be de-Horcruxed--the soul bit destroyed to make Voldemort mortal
> and Harry still alive to kill or destroy Voldemort.

Jen:  The locked room can solve this dilemma pretty handily if Harry 
does have a soul piece.  My reasoning on why Harry could stay alive 
and the Horcrux be detroyed is we haven't seen that the receptacles 
are ruined after killing the soul piece:  The diary had a hole in it 
from how Harry destroyed the soul piece not the actual soul-
destruction, so it seems possible the crack in the ring was from the 
same cause.  A power flowing through Harry (and not hurting him 
because it is the same power he holds inside) might be able to 
destroy the soul piece without wounding Harry.  But I think that same 
power would destory Voldemort and his soul piece because he has 
*none* of the power inside to protect him.

And the wording of the prophecy would still hold true symbolically 
('either must die at the hand of the other') if Harry is the one who 
manages to get Voldemort inside the room.  Here was something I said 
in another post which is relevant here:

The fact that Harry has remained a human capable of loving in the 
face of great pain is what makes him completely different from 
Voldemort and that's what will save Harry in the end, not what will 
kill Voldemort. That's why I think Voldemort will have to die in the 
locked room, no one is actually capable of killing him, but Harry is 
uniquely qualified to figure out the weakness that will destroy 
Voldemort in the end.

 
Carol: 
> Personally, I think Harry will use the one Voldie!power he's not yet
> aware that he, erm, possesses--possession--to force Voldie through
> the Veil. I think that, like the heroes of mythology, Harry will 
> enter the Underworld (or, in his case, the world beyond the Veil)
> and return again. Unlike Sirius Black, who died as a result of
> entering that world, he will return because his own body will have
> been left behind.
>

Jen:  Harry using Voldemort's power of posssession seems like Harry 
sinking to LV's level rather than finally coming to terms with all 
Dumbledore has taught him about Voldemort's weaknesses and Harry's 
power, why Harry is a wizard 'of uncommon skill and power' when it 
comes to defetaing Voldemort if not for any other reason.

JKR was saying that in her mind OOTP was the dark (underworld) moment 
for Harry, she said that he was like the phoenix rising from the 
ashes after that, he returned strengthened and renewed from that 
experience.  Here's the quote (Stephen Fry interview, BBC, 2005):

JKR: And Harry, therefore, did have to reach a point where he did 
almost break down, and say he didn't want to play anymore, he didn't 
want to be the hero anymore – and he'd lost too much. And he didn't 
want to lose anything else. So that – Phoenix was the point at which 
I decided he would have his breakdown. 

SF: Right. 

JKR: And now he will rise from the ashes strengthened.