Harry's Characterization (was: Satisfaction of the story to date )

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 5 04:38:35 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 163454

> Mike:
<BIG SNIP>
> I don't know what "IT" is in JKR's world, that's why I included 
those 
> two qualifications in my previous post. What makes Harry 
*powerfully 
> magical*? Is it his character, mother's love, his *ability to 
love*,  
> stubbornness? You can pick any or all of these, or come up with 
your 
> own. I'm not trying to narrow it down nor quantify which 
> characteristic is the most integral to Harry's power. I'm just 
sure 
> that JKR wants us to subconsciously realize that Harry has 
something 
> about him that noone else has. And, yes Alla, there is an 
explanation 
> for each of his end of book triumphs. And you are right Anne, he 
does 
> get help in almost every instance. But it's still Harry who does 
each 
> of those things. 
<SNIPPY, SNIPPY, SNIP>


Alla:

Am afraid that I am not going to be very substantive at this late 
hour, but just need to clarify something :)

You do not have to convince me Mike, that Harry has **IT**, whatever 
that **IT** is, as you said.

Heeee, if you are not really disagreeing with any of us, am I 
disagreeing with you?

I don't know, all that I am saying is that IMO Harry's power feeds 
on his emotions, on his heart, that's all and I was specifically 
trying to point out Harry's extraordinary achievements in HBP and 
yes, I am saying that despite it not transforming in superb magical 
achievements as in other books, his emotional achievements were 
there.

I think that feeling brief pity for Tom Riddle and feeling pity for 
Draco may in DH indeed transform in some extraordinary magic ( and I 
do agree with you that in Potterverse love is power and since JKR 
called HBP the first part, maybe we will see extraordinary magic 
based on that at the end.


>> > Annemehr:
> > As a true DDM!Snape believer, I suggest that it's because 
*Snape*  
> > is powerfully magical and an integral part of the plan to defeat 
> > LV, and that Snape knew -- *really* knew -- what he had to do, 
and  
> > it wasn't to be captured by Harry.
> 
> Mike:
> Oh boy, wait till Alla here's this. You're gonna be in trouubble.
<SNIP, BIG one>

Alla:

MAHAHAHAHA. Who me? Lonely believer in the fact that Snape may not 
be teaching Harry, but taunting him at the end of HBP?
Lonely believer that Snape would be up for a big surprise at the end 
when he will get to experience the power that forgiving heart can 
weave?

Oh, Mike, you are exaggerating my powers, you truly do :)

There is one moment in that thread that I wanted to remark on, but 
sort of lost momentum, so may as well say it now.

I was surprised of your surprise that Harry did not learn anything 
from Snape.

I mean, even with the best case scenario, that Snape is supremely 
loyal to DD, why would Harry after six years of emnity suddenly 
**want** to learn anything from Snape?

Why would Harry believe that Snape can teach him anything after 
Occlumency fiasco? And if I may Dumbledore itself does not insist 
that Snape can teach him anything, no?

Ooops, must stop now. Just saying that I thought it was very 
consistent characterisation on JKR's behalf.

Good night.

Alla





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