Harry's Characterization

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No: HPFGUIDX 163555

Re: Harry's Characterization 


> > Alla:
> >
> > Except nowhere near in this scene Snape even implies IMO that
> > Harry's answer is to go different way completely. If Snape is
> > dispensing **useful advise** to Harry ( which as I said I do not
> > think he is, I think it is either taunting that Harry is
uncapable
> > of using Unfogivables, or quite idiotic advise), that means that
he
> > is subtly encouraging Harry to learn Occlumency, not to learn
> > something else entirely, no?
>
> Pippin:
>
> Can you explain why, if Snape meant to sneak advice to Harry
> under the guise of taunting him, Snape would want to make it
> obvious?
>
> What would the scene be like if Snape had said nothing? Would
> Harry immediately understand why his attacks were failing? Was
> it not useful for Harry to know?

Alla:

Oh, I am not asking for **obvious** Pippin, I am asking for the
advise to actually **be there**.

I was just trying to figure out where in that scene you read that
Snape encourages Harry to **give up** Occlumency. Could you point me
to that?

Or did I lost you again? I thought you were saying that what Snape
actually does is telling Harry that he has to do something else -
not close his mind and I am saying that **IF** and this is a very
big IF in my opinion, Snape gives Harry advise in that scene, the
advise is to close his mind.

The way I am reading your argument, you are saying that Snape
actually does exact opposite, discourages Harry from doing it?

If it is correct, could you please point me to the quote, where
Snape does that?

Thanks.

ETA:
Pippin, somebody just explained to me that what you actually meant 
in your earlier post is that Snape does not advise Harry to give up 
Occlumency that this is the conclusion us as readers and Harry must 
make.
Is that what you meant?


Thanks again.

Alla