Maybe Snape really is DDM!

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 163684

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...>
wrote:
>
> Chancie wrote:
> > >
> <snip> [I]f Snapes true goal was to kill Dumbledore, wouldn't that
> have gone against the curse?  He would have gotten what he
> wanted-that's not a curse that's a blessing!  Does that along with 
> the other circumstantial evidence PROVE that Snape is DDM? <snip>
> 
> > CDR:
> > 
> > You make sense to me!
> > I remember the horrid feeling in the pit of my stomach that I got 
> > when I read that Snape would finally get the DADA position in HBP. 
> > I felt slapped. It was an ominous sign for Snape. 
> 
> Carol responds:
> As the author of a very long and rather notorious post on the DADA
> curse, I think I can point you to some threads! 

Hi Carol, 
 When I read this thread I immediately thought of your post about the
curse, I highly recommend it. 

fr Chancie and CDR the gist of Carols Theory is not unlike yours in
proposing that the curse acts in a specific way. I'm not totally
agreeing with Carols take on it, personally, so I'll give mine for now
and let you read both -

If we look at the Dada teacher successively, I think we can see that
the teachers worst intentions are turned upon them by the curse. 

Quirrel's darkest intentions were to kill, ad Quirrel ended up dead.
Lockharts darkest intentions were to steal others memories, and he
lost his.
Skipping Lupin for the moment.
Crouch, another killer who tortured Mad Eye Moody for a year, dies in
a most awful way to be tortured for eternity.
Umbridge, her intentions were to punish and oppress, the centaurs
punish her and keep her captive for quite a long time. 

So we come to Lupin and Snape. It's possible Lupin didn't have any bad
intentions to use against him, he lost his job when Snape leaked his
werewolf status, this was an emotional blow to Lupin, and fitting if
his worst intentions were to give Snape a hard time ocassionally.

So what were Snape's worst intentions.... I think they were to
deceive. And so it is deceit in the end that has turned on him and
prevented him from returning to the DADA post. 

This again could lead to DDM snape, as the thing preventing him from
returning is tat he is Dumbledores murderer.. so then is this the lie? 

If we first establish that anyone who intends to kill while they hold
the position will die, if they intend to torture they will be
tortured, if they intend to harm, that same harm will return upon
them; If we establish that this is how the curse works, then Snape
never intended to kill anyone, if he had done *he* would be the one
who died as per the curse. 

And so my conclusion. Snape intended worst of all, to lie, and so now
a lie is his downfall. That is, the lie that he killed Dumbledore.

Valky