[HPforGrownups] Regulus and Sirius WAS :Re: Slytherin's Horcrux (was:Hogwarts Houses Unite!)

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 163777

> Kemper wrote:
> > I agree with Sarah. And to expand on the 'collectible' implication
> > that comes from Slughorn's word choice of 'set', it makes me think
> > that was valued highly not only because he was a Black and had
> > influence but because he was as powerful and creative a wizard as
> > Sirius.
>
> Carol signed off earlier on her response to Kemper:
>
> > > Carol, not trying to "bash" Sirius Black but wondering why we
> should take McGonagall's word that a former Gryffindor who excelled in
> *her* class should be regarded as an exceptionally talented or
> creative wizard comparable to, say, Severus Snape
>
> Sherry responded Carol's signoff:
> >
> > What evidence do we have that Snape is brilliant and trustworthy
> beyond the word of Dumbledore? At this point, I'd trust Minerva as
> much as I'd trust DD. ...
> I think Sirius was brash and
> reckless, but a far better man, than Snape. I'd rather have had
> Sirius watching my back, than ever have dared to turn my back on Snape.
> >
> > Sherry, believing that the reputation of Sirius Black will be
> redeemed in the last book.
> >
> Carol replied to Sherry:
>
> Hi, Sherry. I was a bit hard on Sirius, wasn't I? I'm sorry if I hurt
> your feelings or those of other Sirius fans. I was trying to figure
> out why everyone thinks he's so clever and talented and let my dislike
> of him show instead.


Kemper now:
Hi Sherry and Carol!

I'm basing my belief in a creative and powerful Sirius not just
because of other's characterizaion of him (McGonagall's 'exceptionally
bright'; Hermione's '/Brilliant!/' for the logic puzzle... of course
she was 12, but whatever).  Rather, I'm basing my belief based off of
Slughorn's character.

Slughorn didn't need Sirius to get sweeets (or other desired thing)
from the Blacks.  At the time of the Mauraders, he is already, I'm
assuming, connected with the Noble House through Bella, Cissy and, of
course, Regulus.  So why would he want the set?  Slughorn doesn't
really buy into the pureblood dogma, so he wouldn't want Sirius for
bloodline affiliation.  On the train, Slughorn invited potential
clubbers based on family connection (which I'm ruling out as it is
already established as he is talking about it in retrospect) or based
on intelligence/power/creativity.

Sirius is described as brilliant and exceptionally bright.

He becomes an animagus not only underneath DD's ample nose, but years
before learning human transfiguration in the classroom setting (in the
Pensieve, we see young Sirius at the end of his fifth year where we
know that Harry, during his fifth year did no human transfiguration in
class.)  I think Sirius becoming an animagus by his fifth, is on the
power equivalent of Harry casting a Patronus.

He co-created the Maurader's Map.  Crouch Jr. is quite impressed with
that bit of creative magic, 'This... this is some map, Potter!'


Even though this thread is not about Snape's brilliance or his
trustworthiness, I feel compelled to respond.  Snape's brilliance is
evident within his sixth year potions textbook.  There's is no counter
evidence of mediocrity

As far as Snape being trustworthy, I concede that it's a topic open to debate.


Back to creative and powerful Sirius... Carol, bash him all you want.
Harry lost a sort-of-father figure because Sirius fought, true to
character, arrogantly.  That guy was prick.


Kemper, who wonder's what Molly's potential is... she said Slughorn
didn't have time for Arthur, does that mean he had time for Molly?