[HPforGrownups] Re: What *Do* You know? Dumblodore Context

Scarah scarah at gmail.com
Tue Jan 16 09:39:59 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 163826

Talisman, in general I am interested in your ideas and wish to
subscribe to your newsletter.  <g>  I have a few questions, though.

Talisman:
For instance, I am sure that DD is the author of the Prophecy, and
that the dynamics in play, and the inevitability of the final show-
down, are his very creations.

Sarah:
What do you suggest are the mechanics of the seemingly legitimate
Pensieve recreation of Trelawney giving the prophecy?  For this theory
to be true, either Dumbledore has her under the Imperius Curse or
similar, or he has, for lack of a better word, Photoshopped the
memory.  The 'shopping seems more in character, and I wouldn't trust
Harry to recognize a 'shop, but I'm curious how you would explain it.
(There *is* canon of Harry recognizing the telltale signs of an
obvious (what I'm calling) 'shop in the Pensieve, but that's in the
much different context of going inside the memory, rather than the
memory's personification rising out of the basin.  I think the
difference in mechanics is sufficient cause to speculate on a
difference in counterfeitability.)

Talisman:
I'm not so sure DD's plan is all about bringing Voldemort down.

There is too much evidence of DD facilitating Voldemort, in the first
place,  for me to say that.

Sarah:
I think there is evidence of facilitating Voldemort, but isn't the
purpose of it to get Voldemort "right where we want him?"  I'd like to
hear more on this.

If Dumbledore knew about GH and allowed it, what's the purpose if
Dumbledore dreamed up the prophecy on his own?  (Honest question, not
facetious.)  If Dumbledore did not invent the prophecy, I assumed
*Dumbledore chose* Harry over Neville and may have subtly encouraged
Voldemort in that direction.

If Dumbledore facilitated Pettigrew's escape, and the subsequent
events at the graveyard, that has more obvious benefits toward the
goal of bringing down Voldemort.  It's hard to get an invisible target
roaming the floor of the Albanian forest.

And I definitely agree with regards to Lily.  'Kill me instead" does
not make any sense on the surface of this situation.  If it were say,
a carjacking ("leave Harry on the side of the road and then you can do
what you want with me") or maybe a bank robbery hostage situation
("give Harry to the SWAT team outside and then you can do what ever
you want with me")  I could buy it, but who (lacking some other
knowledge or as you put it "belief") would think that would hold any
water in this kind of home invasion?  Most people would just think
that if they died first, they'd be leaving the baby at the whim of the
bad guys.  Which would normally be a correct thought.

Sarah




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