[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry as Horcrux

[Kamil]

No: HPFGUIDX 163968

<Sarah>
Going with the cake analogy, I think this is a little flawed.  If we
believe that Tom Riddle *ever* had a soul (and I think we must) then
the "cake" was in fact already "baked." It has only to be "sliced."
A Muggle could probably conceive some Goldberg device to snatch a cake
 slice once it is sliced from the rest of the cake, and pull it into a
 box.  Is it so hard to believe a wizard with the powers of Lord
  Voldemort can enchant an object such to ensnare a slice of something
  once the slice is separated from the whole?

<Kamil>
As I understand it, this is more or less in line with my views on how
a Horcrux is made. I believe that the soul, the cake if you will, is
already in its baked state, the creation of the Horcrux is the process
by which a slice, a tear, from that cake is encased in a container and
preserved.

I seem to be alone in my thoughts, but Horcrux!Harry or no, I find it
quite difficult to believe that the spell to encase the torn slice is
preformed entirely post-tear. It seems logical to me that the
container must be prepared (via spell - hmm, would it be considered a
charm or a curse?)  pre-murder, then the murder is carried out, the
soul tears, and the torn piece, instead of drifting off into the ether
somewhere goes into the prepared container.

At least  I assume the soul fragments of murders who are muggles, or
wizards who aren't creating a horcrux, go somewhere or the other and
don't just forever drift about on our plane.

If the spell is preformed and the containing vessel prepared entirely
post-murder, what's to prevent the torn fragment from vanishing to
wherever it would go otherwise? Is there a time delay? <g> Or are
there millions of torn soul fragments drifting around even as we speak
- and if that's the case, and the spell is done entirely post-death,
how's a poor wizard to be sure he gets the proper fragment, the one
belonging to him?

No, it seems to me the spell must be begun, and in my view, largely
executed, prior to the death to be used.

Which is why I think Harry might be an unintentional horcrux. I think
LV may very well have intended to use Harry's death to make his
Gryffindor!crux (I will be unsurprised to discover a relic of GG was
at GH) - only things didn't go quite as planned. So instead of the
fragment going into whatever container he'd intended it instead
attached itself to Harry.

I don't think this will be the way it finally plays out - but I'll be
very surprised if Harry doesn't spend at least a chapter or three
thinking this is the way things are going to play out - that he will
have to die to ensure the destruction of that particular horcrux. I
think he will have to face believing he cannot survive his task - and
I think how he deals with that belief will largely determine whether
or not he actually does survive.

He's been sure he's going to die before - but it's always been in the
heat of the moment - he's never really had to look certain death in
the face from a far-off distance.

Kamil