Snape, a Deatheater.

puduhepa98 at aol.com puduhepa98 at aol.com
Sun Jan 21 03:22:03 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 163992

>Pippin:
>Listees who read carefully know that Bella is involved  because
Snape says so: "Ah....Aunt Bellatrix has been teaching you  Occlumency,
I see." --HBP ch 15

Nikkalmati
Oops, I stand corrected.  Snape guessed that Bella was helping  Draco.  
 
>Pippin

Really, your theory has Snape figuring out what he agreed to so  early
that it scarcely makes any difference, unless what you're saying is  that
he wouldn't have agreed at all if he'd known. 
 
Nikkalmati
 
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter! It only means he did not deliberately  
promise to kill DD!  That is what I mean; he would not under any  
circumstances have made that promise, if he knew what it was, unless he is  not DDM or 
unless you accept that DD and Snape already planned for Snape to kill  DD.  No 
other explanation has been given IMHO which explains the UV.
 
Nikkalmati
 
>Pippin

>But then we should not only see something which we  could later
recognize as the moment when he realizes what he's agreed to  do,
we should see Snape trying desperately to undo his mistake.  That
doesn't happen.
 
Nikkalmati
 
I don't see how we could possibly see that moment without giving away  
Snape's true allegiance and feelings.  Do you think in DH we are going to  see Snape 
agonizing over killing DD?  We have never gotten inside Snape's  head to see 
what he was thinking and we may never get that chance.  The  best we have is 
the cryptic argument with DD in the Forbidden Forest.
 
Nikkalmati

>Nikklamati:
>We do find out that Draco has  refused to come see SS when told to 
>and we see Draco walk out on SS in a  fit of anger. Furthermore, SS 
>and DD don't seem to learn anything more  about Draco's task during 
>the rest of the year than they knew at  Christmas!

>Pippin:
>But that's what the argument in the forest  is about, seemingly. 
>Dumbledore thinks Draco's plans can never come to  fruition because
there's no way to get DE's into the castle. Snape thinks  that Dumbledore
takes too much for granted. Dumbledore wins the argument, and  
Snape is told to continue his investigations in Slytherin -- not,  one
assumes, continue them with Bella or in Hogsmeade or do anything
which  would make Voldemort aware that Dumbledore knows
that Draco is plotting  against him.
 
Nikkalmati
 
I can agree with this, but I don't see that it contradicts what I  said.
 
Nikkalmati

Pippin



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