Do you agree? (Harry as Horcrux)

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 164005

Sarah:
> However.  I don't believe that the use of the word "Encased"
> automatically equals "Magic done after the fact."
> 
> You snipped the rest of my post.  There is so much magic in the
> Potterverse that involves preparing an object first and having that
> object react later, that I can't even quote it all.  Can you respond
> to any of that?

Ceridwen:
I read that.  :D  I don't think that was what Carol had in mind, 
though.  The items you mentioned - Bludgers, Portkeys, and some other 
things I'm forgetting - are all *finished* at an earlier moment than 
when they are used.  The Bludger will be a Bludger, no more tinkering 
necessary, once it rolls off the assembly line at the Bludger factory 
(loved that visual, by the way), the Portkey will take its handlers 
where it was programmed to take them, at the appointed time.

Some people are suggesting that an item intended as a Horcrux must 
first be "primed" magically before it is ready to receive the soul 
piece, which would involve another bit of magic to get the intangible 
soul piece out of the host and into the item, then, perhaps, 
magically sealed (?) to keep the soul piece inside of it.

Some are saying that the first step, priming the item, doesn't 
necessarily need to be done only after the soul has been ripped.  For 
a cold-blooded killer like Voldemort/Tom Riddle, he can plot a murder 
and prime an object before he goes off to actually kill the person.

I think this is where the debate gets fuzzy.  Some people think the 
item must be brought along to the murder scene in order to encase the 
freshly torn soul piece; others think that the item does not have to 
be primed, and can in fact be found after the soul has been split, 
then primed, then used as a receptacle for the soul piece, even years 
later.

So this debate actually goes back to Godrick's Hollow, and the 
possibility that the item enchanted to become a Horcrux, perhaps a 
relic of Gryffindor or Ravenclaw which was not known to the WW at 
large (see DD's comments about Founders' Relics), might be found in 
the overgrown ruins, given that such ruins exist and were not cleared 
away to build a shopping mall.

Ceridwen, who is now wondering if Bludgers roll off the assembly 
line, or fly off.