Snape, a Deatheater who assists suicide?.

kibakianakaya Lana.Dorman at Adelphigroup.com
Sun Jan 21 17:53:07 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 164016

> Nikkalmati
>
> Veeery interesting.  If Snape thinks DD means him to do "it",
that  means
> that Snape does know exactly what Draco's task is and that part of
the  eventual
> plan is for Snape to kill DD (if everything goes south and it
comes  down to
> the last possible choice?).
>
>  The problem I have with that idea is that IMHO, my personal
view,  that
> would not be a moral decision.  Now, as a friend at work told me,
it  is her story
> and she can write it however she wants, and, yes, all kinds of
terrible
> things are done in war, but JKR has indicated she is writing a
story  from a
> Christian viewpoint and having two main characters conspire to
kill one  of them,
> whether it is collateral damage in wartime or whether it is
assisted suicide,
> it infringes on my moral code.  I used to get out of the  quandary
by
> assuming (based in part of the phoenix rising from the fire)  that
DD is not dead or
> will be revived.  I now think (after the New York  book reading)
that JKR did
> not intend for DD to return, much as I might wish  it.  This may
just be my
> problem, but I could never recommend the books to  children, if it
turns out DD
> and SS conspired to end DD's life.
>
>


Lilygale, responding to the assisted suicide idea and who apologizes
if this is a double post - Yahoomort ate a post earlier

So what is stoppered death, and how might it be similar or different
to suicide?

To my mind (and I'm certainly no expert), suicide implies an intent
to take one's death into one's own hand and voluntarily die despite
having an opportunity to live.  Stoppered death implies that death
is inevitable but posponed.  Of course, death is inevitable for us
all. Is unstoppering death an act against nature?

Let's look at an analogy. What if your doctor tells you that you
have metastatic cancer and have 3 months to live.  But with
radiation and chemotherapy, you could live for 12 months. As far as
I know, there is nothing immoral in  Judaism, Christianity or other
moral systems if one chooses to avoid treatment and live out ones
life span of 3 months. One is simply letting nature takes its course.

By lifting the stopper on death, is one actively committing suicide,
or just letting nature take its course?  I am of the opinion that,
in the Potterverse, when Snape unstoppers Dumbledore's death on the
tower upon Dumbledore's request, the men are letting the damage done
by the Horcrux take its natural and final course.  It is not suicide
because, but Dumbledore is not actively choosing death. The death
has already happened.  He is using his death (he is *already dead*)
to help Harry and Draco, and to defeat LV.

Another question about suicide: was drinking the potion in the cave
an act of suicide?  Or an act of bravery committed during wartime.
Again, I don't think Dumbledore acted suicidally any more than a
soldier, fighting in a war, can be said to be suicidal.








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