Would Harry forgiving Snape be character growth for him? Re: CHAPDISC: HBP 29,
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 24 03:38:50 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 164107
« > Alla:
> > The question is why do you not see that Harry forgiving Snape,
evil
> > Snape or any less than completely DD!M Snape would be a
character
> > growth for Harry.
>
> zgirnius:
> Speaking only for myself, the objection to ESE!Snape as I
understand it
> is not that it would not provide an example of Harry doing
something
> noble and heroic is he forgave ESE!Snape. It would. It would not
> provide anything *new*.
>
> ESE!Snape is not the villain of the tale, who will be defeated by
> Harry's power of love. Voldemort is. He is also thre *primary*
reason
> Harry's parents are dead, and the man who gave the order to kill
> DUmbledore. He has done far worse to Harry personally than Snape,
as
> well, having tortured him with the Cruciatus curse and materminded
the
> MOM fiasco that led to the death of Sirius.
>
Alla:
I am afraid I still do not understand. Harry forgiving Evil Snape
would not provide anything new for his character?
How is that possible?
Right now Harry **hates** Snape, then he will learn to **not hate**
Snape anymore. Not because Snape did not do anything wrong, but
because Snape either commits redemptive act OR because Harry would
realise that it is really bad for his mental health to become like
Snape or because Harry would realise that Lily would have wanted him
to forgive Snape or something.
So, he will grow, no?
Aren't you really saying ( do not mean to put words in your mouth),
but that is what I hear, so correct me if I am wrong, that Harry
forgiving Snape would not provide anything **new** for us to see in
Snape?
Well, not it would not. But it would provide for us to see Harry
growing from hate to forgiveness and that was my question - how is
Harry doing that, even if Snape is evil is not a character growth?
And I really did not argue for or against evil Snape, you know?
I was just asking that limited question :)
Oh, and are you saying that Harry would have to forgive Voldemort
instead of Snape?
I do not agree then, I think that Voldemort in JKR¡¦s world is way
beyond forgiveness ( he is a sociopath as she called him) and he
would be defeated by some sort of metaphoric showing of power of
love, but Harry would also had to forgive somebody IMO, literally.
I mean to me Snape is as good candidate as any ;)
But again that was not my question, so if anybody can explain it
further to me, much appreciated.
JMO,
Alla
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