Would Harry forgiving Snape be character growth for him? Re: CHAPDISC: HBP 29,
quick_silver71
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Thu Jan 25 07:05:47 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 164152
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03"
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:
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> Betsy Hp:
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> Hmm... I suppose Alla is thinking that the remorse, redemption,
> rebirth phase of (anything but DDM!)Snape's story will all get
> crammed into DH? For one, I don't think it'll fit. For another,
if
> Snape has been meant to be exactly what Harry saw him as throughout
> the previous books, it seems to be piling too many themes on
Snape's
> poor shoulders. And finally, it puts too much growth onto Snape.
> Snape will be where the action is, while Harry doesn't grow too
much
> at all.
>
> However, if most of Snape's redemption has taken place off-screen
and
> Harry learns about it on-screen, the action will all be on Harry's
> side. Which is why I don't see any flavor but DDM!Snape (not to be
> confused with perfect!Snape) as fitting into Harry's story.
Quick_Silver:
I think that you take it too far in the other direction when you say
that Snape isn't going to have his own growth in DH. I think that
Snape and Harry are going to do grow concurrently in DH and the
result will be a forgiving Harry and *redeemed*, DDM!, (whatever)
Snape. As an example/speculation I can't help but fill that Snape's
opinion of Harry's skills/talents/attitude is partly being built up
to be knocked down.
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> Betsy Hp:
> And beyond that, Harry may be able to forgive Snape those actions
> that perhaps Snape himself doesn't recognize as wrong (classroom
> behavior, snipes at James, etc.). Which would put Harry in a
> stronger position, character-wise, than Snape. Since Snape was not
> able to let go of (or forgive) the wrong actions of the not always
> well behaved but still basically good James, Sirius and Lupin.
Quick_Silver:
But doesn't that still make Snape into an object of semi-pity? Snape
would become the guy that never got over Hogwarts and what happened
to him there. How could Harry not treat that Snape with some
pity/bemusement/contempt? Totally speculating here but I think
that Snape still has the chance to move beyond the Marauders in form
of Harry.
Quick_Silver
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