Would Harry forgiving Snape be character growth for him? Re: CHAPDISC: HBP 29,

quick_silver71 quick_silver71 at yahoo.ca
Thu Jan 25 07:05:47 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 164152

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:
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> Betsy Hp:
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> Hmm... I suppose Alla is thinking that the remorse, redemption, 
> rebirth phase of (anything but DDM!)Snape's story will all get 
> crammed into DH?  For one, I don't think it'll fit.  For another, 
if 
> Snape has been meant to be exactly what Harry saw him as throughout 
> the previous books, it seems to be piling too many themes on 
Snape's 
> poor shoulders.  And finally, it puts too much growth onto Snape.  
> Snape will be where the action is, while Harry doesn't grow too 
much 
> at all.
> 
> However, if most of Snape's redemption has taken place off-screen 
and 
> Harry learns about it on-screen, the action will all be on Harry's 
> side.  Which is why I don't see any flavor but DDM!Snape (not to be 
> confused with perfect!Snape) as fitting into Harry's story.

Quick_Silver:
I think that you take it too far in the other direction when you say 
that Snape isn't going to have his own growth in DH. I think that 
Snape and Harry are going to do grow concurrently in DH and the 
result will be a forgiving Harry and *redeemed*, DDM!, (whatever) 
Snape. As an example/speculation I can't help but fill that Snape's 
opinion of Harry's skills/talents/attitude is partly being built up 
to be knocked down.
 
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> Betsy Hp:
> And beyond that, Harry may be able to forgive Snape those actions 
> that perhaps Snape himself doesn't recognize as wrong (classroom 
> behavior, snipes at James, etc.).  Which would put Harry in a 
> stronger position, character-wise, than Snape.  Since Snape was not 
> able to let go of (or forgive) the wrong actions of the not always 
> well behaved but still basically good James, Sirius and Lupin.

Quick_Silver:
But doesn't that still make Snape into an object of semi-pity? Snape 
would become the guy that never got over Hogwarts and what happened 
to him there. How could Harry not treat that Snape with some 
pity/bemusement/contempt? Totally speculating here but I think 
that Snape still has the chance to move beyond the Marauders in form 
of Harry. 

Quick_Silver






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