Second hand trust in Snape WAS: Would Harry forgiving Snape

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Jan 28 00:03:49 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 164217


> > Pippin:

> > I can hardly imagine that Lupin would have chosen to drink the 
> > potion, and thought he should be grateful for it,  if he thought 
> > the only thing keeping Snape from poisoning him was fear of 
> > Dumbledore. LOL!
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Why so? I absolutely can imagine that possibility , only I would 
> formulate it that the only reason Snape would agree to do that for 
> Lupin would be per DD insistence.

Pippin:
So, you're saying Lupin took the potion from someone he didn't trust
because Dumbledore said it was okay? Why? He didn't *have* to
take the potion, he could have suffered through his transformations 
the way he usually does. Either Lupin trusted Snape to make the
potion correctly, or he didn't care if it was safe or not, or he's an
idiot. Which Lupin are you arguing for?


> Alla:
> 
> Do I even have to answer the **crucial** difference that I see 
> between  Dumbledore and Sirius' situation and Harry and 
Snape, because that is too easy? :)
> 
> Okay, I will. If we will learn that Dumbledore seen with his eyes, 
> personally how Sirius killed the muggles and betrayed the Potters, I 
> would certainly ease up on him, I promise.
> 
> And conversely, if Harry was not personally present at the Tower, 
> and somebody else would have told him that Snape killed Dumbledore, 
> I would have been a bit harder on him to double check and 
> investigate for himself.
> 
> And which is more plausible? You know what I think :)
>

Pippin:
It seems to me that the person benefitting from second hand trust
is Harry. Everyone (except Hagrid) accepts Harry's account without
question, him being such an objective and skilled observer, and all.
(not.) Nobody double checks and investigates for themselves.
 I suppose they feel guilty that Harry was doubted over Voldemort's
return. But that doesn't mean he can't ever be wrong.

What makes you think he can't be mistaken  just like the Muggles 
were? 

His glasses aren't magical, you know. They're ordinary Muggle glasses, 
that he needs because his eyesight is *defective* in exactly the 
same ways that Muggle eyesight can be.

They're the key to his vulnerability, remember?

Pippin





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