Would Harry forgiving Snape be character growth for him?

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Sun Jan 28 21:28:38 UTC 2007


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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67"  <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
> What would be the point of forgiving  a wholly evil Snape? (Snape in
> any variety is unlikely to ask Harry's  forgiveness; I think it will
> have to be extended vouluntarily.)  


Lupinlore:
Which is why so many Forgiven!Snape scenarios are, at the  very least, 
problematic.  They do, I think, rely heavily on this idea  that Harry 
will change while Snape does not.  Which amounts to being an  approval 
of child abuse, which is, in any flavor and under any  circumstances, 
utterly reprehensible.
 
Julie:
So now not only is JKR condoning child abuse and reprehensible,  but
those of us who can envison a forgiven Snape without him apologizing
specifically for his actions toward Harry as a teacher are now also
condoning child abuse and reprehensible? Thank you very much, though
I have to ask who died and made you God? Really, Lupinlore, you have
to learn to look outside yourself and consider that your views are  NOT
the be-all and end-all of ethical and moral rectitude. You're starting  to
sound like those religious fundamentalists who believe those who  don't
hold their particular beliefs are lacking basic human worth and  should 
be forcibly reeducated or smoted from existence. (I'm not saying you
are like that, but your words can easily support such a stance.)
 
 
Clearly I am insulted by your words, Lupinlore, as they can and  do
read as a judgment of your fellow HPFGU members, and I believe 
that is strictly against the rules here. Perhaps that's not what you
meant, but your tendency to state your arguments in absolutes  does 
lend that interpretation. You are free of course to state that YOUR
moral code won't allow you to accept a Forgiven!Snape scenario 
without the direct and remorseful apology you crave, but please 
avoid passing your judgment on others.
 

Julie, who does believe Harry forgiving Snape can change Harry  even

if it does not change Snape, and that this release of resentment and
hatred in Harry will have little to do with Snape's "child  abuse" during  
Harry's school years which only set the emotional stage, because  
Harry perceives Snape's *true* crimes against him to be the betrayal
of his parents to Voldemort and the murder of his mentor Dumbledore
(and perhaps aiding in Sirius's demise, though I suspect even  Harry
knows Snape had no real part in that). 




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