Snape and redemption WAS: Re: Would Harry forgiving Snape be character

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> > Alla:
> > 
> > I am not necessarily buying it because IMO JKR is quite clear 
now 
> > that Draco is headed for redemption ( oh boy, did I just say 
that?) 
> > and that implies for me that the story of redemption, the 
central 
> > one **may be** the story of someone from Harry's generation.
> 
> Pippin:
> Trouble is, if Snape was never redeemed, or his redemption didn't
> stick, then there's no example of someone who was redeemed and
> went on to live a useful life within the time frame of the story. 
> Draco might redeem himself, but if Snape's redemption failed, 
> then it's going to look like Draco's is doubtful. Of course JKR
> could just tell us that  Draco never did anything evil again, but 
that
> would be weak compared to Snape showing us and proving
> to Harry that he redeemed himself. If Snape has been living
> a useful if somewhat problematic life, then there's hope for
> Draco. Otherwise, not so much.

Alla:

I am sorry, but I do not buy that success of Draco's redemption 
somehow depends on Snape's. I think that if we will be shown that 
Draco did something redemptive in book 7 and learn in the epilogue 
that he went on to live productive life, that could be written quite 
compellingly.

Sure, there would be nobody alive from older generation to serve as 
example of redemption. Who says that it should be?

Lives of older generation **are** tragedy for the most part. They 
are slashed in the middle by war, so I would not find it to be 
surprising if the only example of redemption within the older 
generation would be the person who is dead ( I am still hoping that 
Regulus is alive, but I realise that this is a very tiny possibility 
or none).

Younger generation would do better and get redemption and live, why 
not?

Pippin:
> The problem with Regulus is that he's dead. After raising the 
issue 
> of how we can tell someone is genuinely remorseful, IMO it would 
be 
> a cop out to have the only redemption scenario be a  Vader or 
Boromir
> situation where the character died so promptly that no one had to 
> worry about whether he might backslide.

Alla:

See above, I disagree. Older generation takes a backstage to kids 
and it is likely IMO that their redemption is the story of dead 
peron.