[HPforGrownups] Snape and redemption WAS: Re: Would Harry forgiving Snape be character

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 164250

> Alla:
>
> I did rather big snipping and again it may have been rather
> arbitrarily, although I tried to make it as relevant as possible. I
> just wanted to leave another round of ** Snape and Snape again**
> with understanding that we do understand each other POV.
>
> So, I **think** I get why Snape not changing  would be too negative
> for you.
>
> Basically because you think that Snape story is the central story of
> redemption of the series, yes?
>
> Without Snape you think there would be no redemption story, yes?
>
> So, as I said I think I understand, you think that this is just too
> good of example for redemption for JKR to pass up upon, yes?
>
>
> If I got it, just tell me, okay? I am not necessarily buying it, but
> at least I get where you are coming from.

Magpie:
Good snipping! And that pretty much says it. (And extra points for saying 
you think Draco's headed for redemption, just because I love to hear it:-)

That is a good description of this element of why I lean towards DDM!Snape. 
(It also seems to fit with what I'm seeing of his character in terms of his 
remorse making him bitter.) But as with anything, I can't say that there's 
*one* way that it has to be. It's not like there's a rule she has to follow 
where the central redemption story so far--the one that Harry has refused to 
believe--must turn out to be a successful one. It's just another reason I 
lean towards thinking that's the way it's going to go.

And also that's the way it seems to make the most obvious way for Harry to 
feel like he's learned something, rather than thinking Dumbledore made a 
mistake with Snape but Harry doesn't blame him for it because he was trying 
to be good.

At this point Draco has at least more to redeem himself for than he did when 
hadn't, you know, tried to kill anybody.:-) But I do think that Dumbledore's 
"no real harm has been done" leans more towards the idea that Draco's still 
got a chance to make the right choice the first time rather than having to 
make up for the choice he made before. Either way Snape and Draco's story is 
different and they're dealing with different issues that draw them to the 
Dark Side so whatever their roles are, they're different.
-m