Harry's Vision and Snape (Re: Would Harry forgiving Snape be character...)

[esmith222002]

No: HPFGUIDX 164307

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
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> How, *how* can their preconceptions and misreadings of each other,
> particularly Harry's view of Snape as an evil, murderous traitor, be
> corrected? I can think of a few ways, among them Snape saving 
Harry's
> life or that of one of Harry's friends through those intriguing
> healing powers he demonstrated in HBP. Another possibility is 
memories
> of conversations between Snape and Dumbledore viewed in a Pensieve
> (maybe DD has bottled a few and willed them to Harry just in case).
> Maybe someone more logical than Harry (Hermione or Lupin) will begin
> to see that the pieces of Harry's story don't quite fit together, 
and
> Harry is either missing something or trying to create the wrong
> picture from them.
> 
> I don't think the missing link will be Lily (though I do think that
> Snape regretted her death and tried to prevent it just because she 
and
> Harry were innocent. I think he tried to prevent James's because he
> didn't want James to die with the life debt unpaid and resents him 
to
> this day for arrogantly refusing to listen to Dumbledore's 
warning). I
> think it's more likely to be Regulus. (Or rather, that's my hope. I
> certainly don't think that Snape made any Wormtongue-style bargain
> with Voldemort/Saruman regarding Lily/Eowyn. Ugh.) And certainly,
> Harry has to learn about the UV somehow, which can only come from
> Snape himself telling his story as Lupin and Black tell theirs in 
PoA.
> But something unexpected will happen, and new pieces of evidence 
will
> show up. They have to because JKR has been preparing Snape's role in
> Harry's story since Book 1 and has said in an interview somewhere 
that
> he has a crucial role to play in Book 7.
> 
> Carol, not blaming a teenage boy for reacting to what he sees as the
> plain truth but hoping that he'll develop the maturity and vision to
> recognize Dumbledore's wisdom and Snape's loyalty and courage in DH

Brothergib replies:

I really don't understand why Harry has to learn about Snape's 
allegiance in the next book. In fact, surely it is incredibly 
dangerous for him to do so. If Snape is on the side of good, he 
really needs to continue to fool LV. Snape is clearly a good enough 
legilimens/occlumens to fool LV. However, if Harry is aware of 
Snape's duplicity, then LV has a real chance of discovering this. 

I continue to believe that Snape's role has been to assist DD with 
the removal of the Horcruxes. Initially, it is a passive role e.g. to 
help DD after the ring curse. However, when DD was killed (yes, 
admittedly by Snape), he did not know what or where all the remaining 
Horcruxes were. The only person who can possibly discover the 
identity of the remaining Horcruxes is (at least in LV's eyes) heroic 
Snape, returning after the murder of DD. With the exception of the 
locket (and possibly Nagini), Snape will locate and destroy the 
remaining Horcruxes. It is not important that Harry knows about this. 
In fact, I'm sure he will be oblivious until the final confrontation 
with LV. Imagine how smug LV would be facing Harry 'thinking' his 
Horcruxes are intact.

And finally, there will be no reconciliation. If Snape dies, Harry 
will finally realise that he was working on the side of good. If 
Snape lives, his resentment for James & Harry will remain. IMO, Snape 
is not against LV because of Harry, it is for his own selfish reasons 
(and I agree they probably have something to do with Lily).

Brothergib