Christian Forgiveness and Snape (was Would Harry forgiving )

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 164407


> > Magpie:
> <BIG SNIP>
> > At times, yes. It is self-serving--effectively so. <snip>. If this scene 
was supposed to make me feel impressed by Dumbledore's caring 
about Harry, it  failed  (for me and for many other people).   
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Yes, yes, yes. Sometimes I am thinking whether JKR truly meant for us 
> to be impressed by Dumbledore's single tear at the end of his speech, 
> sigh, or just laugh at it. Because when I read it I either want to 
> laugh or slap him. But I am thinking that was meant to be sentimental 
> moment indeed. Nah, felt flat for me as well, **really** flat.
> 
> Simple *I am sorry for your loss*, even something similar to what he 
> said to Harry in HBP about Sirius would have even worked better for 
> me.

Pippin:
This is *exactly* the cultural difference I am talking about. In 
"The Queen" Elizabeth just cannot fathom why it's so important to
everyone that she speak openly about the loss of Diana. To her
it seemed that it would be completely inappropriate and self-serving 
to  make a display  of her grief. And the result was that she was
perceived as being cold and manipulative. I can see Dumbledore in 
the same place, hesitating between the values he was brought up with,
which have served him well for 150 years, and his sympathy
for Harry.
 
>   
> > Magpie:
> > And for some reason felt the need to remind us of the dangers of 
> too  much attention here, even though nobody in the room that we 
can see  is suffering from it (and in fact it seems like everyone he's 
 talking about in the scene suffered from the opposite).

Pippin:
Ah. But for Dumbledore the danger was  always there, just as the
danger of Voldemort was always there even when Harry wasn't aware
of it. Why do you think Dumbledore kept the known half of the
prophecy such a secret?

Pippin