OPEN: Ultimate and Last Bragging Rights by TigerPatronus

[dwalker696]

No: HPFGUIDX 171627

THANK YOU, THANK YOU:  To TK for the hours you have (and undoubtedly
will continue to) spend on this!
Disclaimer: I haven't been reading or catching up on theories until
last week when I read some of the bragging rights posts, so if my
thoughts are completely bizarre, don't laugh, I actually don't intend
for them to be comedic though I am sure some sound rather riddikulus.

1. Will Harry die and stay dead at the end of HPDH?
 Oh geez, I think there is evidence for both
.I am going to say yes.
Rather, he won't return to the living world we enjoy, but will be
sharing an existence along with others who have died. Afterlife,
whatever you want to call it. "After all, to the well-organized mind,
death is but the next great adventure" (SS p297)

2. Will Voldemort die and stay dead at the end of HPDH?
 Well, kind of
. "We both know that there are other ways of
destroying a man
your failure to understand that there are things
much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness"  (oop
p814) Voldemort will not be among the living, but will be dead, but
also will be in a tortured, solitary existence worse than death.

3. Excluding Harry and Voldemort, who will be the most prominent
character to die and stay dead?
Prominent being subjective, I will say Snape.

4. From HBP (p125, American Hardcover), in the shop while the trio
were listening with Extendable Ears, what did Draco show Borgin that
scared him?  The Dark Mark – though possibly a "fake one" Draco put
on himself.

5. Assuming Hogwarts reopens as a school, who will return as a
student, which means enrolled in classes whether or not they attend
the classes (answer yes or no for each):
a. Harry?  YES
b. Draco?  NO
c. Hermione? YES
d. Luna?  YES
e. Ron? YES
f. Neville? YES
g. Ginny? YES

6. Which will be the most prominent couple to marry, if any, during
the time period covered in DH, excluding any epilogue?
 Bill and Fleur

7. Who will be the unusual person who performs magic for the first
time "very late in life?"
Aberforth Dumbledore

8. Assuming Hogwarts reopens as a school, who will be the:
a. Head Boy? Ernie Macmillan
b. Head Girl? Hermione Granger
c. DADA Instructor? NO ONE wants this job – I believe Harry will be
asked to fill in for some classes; this will also end the `curse' on
the position.
d. Potions Master or Mistress? New character
e. Headmaster or -mistress? McGonagall

9. Where do Snape's ultimate loyalties lie?  Against Voldemort.

10. Identify the seven Horcruxes. (If you think there are more or
less than seven, write "n/a" or add extra letters as necessary.
Horcruxes in previous books and previously inactivated Horcruxes
must be identified for full credit. If you think one of the soul
pieces is in Voldemort so there are six external Horcruxes plus the
bit still in him, then write "In Voldemort" for one of the answers.)
a. In Voldemort's current body
b. Diary - destroyed
c. Marvolo's Ring - destroyed
d. Slytherin's locket – now in Kreacher's cupboard behind the boiler
in the kitchen at 12 Grimmauld Place
e. Hufflepuff's cup
f. Something of Ravenclaw's, hidden in the collapsed passageway
behind the mirror on the fourth floor (POA p193, and other references
in later books) either a wand or a piece of jewerly, something
ornamental (zero points for this lame stab at a prediction as to what
the specific thing is)
g. Harry's scar. Voldythingy, unable to find access to Godric
Gryffindor's only known relic, finds that Harry is a descendant of
GG. Putting a horcrux into an already living thing is a concept DD
introduces to Harry – I think it possible DD already suspects Harry's
scar is a horcrux, bc 1. Avada Kedavra leaves no mark 2. The
repetition that the scar is a connection to Voldemort is more than
established, (whether it is actually evidence that supports
scar=horcrux is of course just MHO, but no one can deny that
scar=direct link to Voldemort) 3. By introducing the concept of
Nagini, and that a living thing being a horcrux, DD could be warming
up Harry to the idea that a living thing can have a horcrux inflicted
upon them, and hope Harry figures it out, rather than shocking him
with the information  4."I am sure that he was intending to make his
final horcrux with your death"  (HBP p. 506) Perhaps Voldythingy
planned to kill Harry and make him the horcrux at the same time,
because certainly putting a horcrux into a dead body which would then
be buried in the ground certainly makes for safekeeping of the
horcrux.

In case Hogwarts does not reopen, or in case we do not have
sufficient information to answer #5 and #8 above, these two
alternate questions will used in place of #5 and #8, above. If #5
and #8 are sufficiently answered in DH, the alternate questions will
be used as tiebreakers.

Alternate 1. What are Snape's patronus and boggert?
Patronus: Bat
Boggart:  Voldemort discovering his allegiance to DD
But I do not believe we will see either of these.

Alternate 2. What is behind the locked door at the Department of
Mysteries in the Ministry of Magic?
Love in all of it's manifestations, examples, and powers.

Predictions (10 points each / 50 points total):
Make 5 predictions not covered in the Compulsory Question section.


1. The big question JKR asks, and wonders why no one else has: Why
does DD have James' invisibility cloak at the time of his (James')
death.  I don't know! But it certainly seems that it must be
significant. The best I can do is this:  DD's twin, Aberforth, has
not been discussed as being wizard or squib (assuming DD's parents
were wizards) and IMHO he is not a wizard, and might have needed some
protection
.?

2.  Tom Riddle hid (or re-hid) a horcrux while possessing Ginny
during the winter – it is in the collapsed passage on the fourth
floor, and part of getting into it is using the mirror Erised.

3. "The Deathly Hallows" refers to the horcruxes, which I believe
Harry must only find and destroy 4 objects – 2 already destroyed, and
1 is in Voldemort.  Celtic mythology includes The Four Treasures, or
The Hallows of Ireland. Those 4 relics were a stone (the black stone
in Marvolo's ring?) a cauldron (Hufflepuff's cup?) a sword (Godric's
sword isn't available, so use Harry?) and a spear –  a spear – a
stick -  a wand? Or a spear – a lance –an axe? Like the bloody one in
the room of requirement? (and perhaps responsible for Nick being
Nearly Headless?) Of course, since the stone (ring) has already been
destroyed, we have to substitute the locket


4. Vernon is going to make some greedy attempt at Harry's gold (how
cool would it be if he were sucked into a vault at Gringott's and
trapped? SS p76 but I don't think he actually will) or Harry's
property, 12 Grimmauld Place. Petunia is going to apologize to Harry,
though.

5. The way to destroy the horcruxes is to take them behind the veil
in the Death Chamber. DD stuck his hand through the veil to destroy
the ring, and his hand came back dead.  But – it shows that a body
(or a limb attached to a body) CAN at least come back out in its
corporeal (albeit dead) form – so what is the trick Harry must learn
to come back out whole AND alive? If that is possible (but I don't
believe it is) the answer comes from the locked "love room" in the
Dept of Mysteries .

6. I suppose Harry and Ginny will have to have "I'm off to battle
Voldemort never to return so let's not  die virgins" sex, but I am
sure JKR will word it discreetly, even cryptically for our younger
audience.  Similar to how Alice Walker wrote the love scene between
Celie and Shug in The Color Purple– if you are of a certain age and
maturity, you get it, it you're 10, hopefully not so much.


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