Emmeline Vance
justcarol67
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Sat Jul 14 23:12:22 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 171757
Susan McGee wrote:
>
> Emmeline Vance is the key. If she's really dead, Snape is evil.
>
Carol responds:
Not necessarily. He may have taken more credit for her death than he
deserved (or more blame, from our perspective), just as he did with
Sirius Black, who died by Bellatrix's hand because of Voldemort's
plot, Kreacher's treachery, and Black's own decision to go to the MoM
(not to mention brilliantly fighting on the dais to the Veil, taunting
Bellatrix rather than paying attention to where he was). Whatever
information Snape may have given about him (that he was at Hogwarts
after the graveyard incident, for example) could have had only a small
role in the chain of events and choices that led to Black's death. I
suspect that whatever he revealed about Emmeline Vance was equally
insignificant and ought not to have led to her death. After all, Snape
as a spy/double agent/triple agent or whatever he is, has to provide
some accurate information to Voldemort (probably with DD's
preapproval) or he'll be exposed as DD's man and killed. He does not
claim to have killed her, only that she died as a result of
information that he provided, the same claim that he made
(inaccurately) for Sirius Black. Neither Narcissa nor Bellatrix is in
a position to argue with him, and Narcissa is too preoccupied with
Draco's predicament to care about Snape's past.
That said, Emmeline Vance's death *could* be evidence that he's
another Wormtail, giving evidence that leads to Order member's deaths,
but if that's the case, it's the only instance we know of. Or she
could be an unfortunate casualty of the spy game, one who knew the
risk of joining the Order, just as Benjy Fenwick and the Prewitts and
Marlene McKinnon and all the others knew it in VW1.
It's possible, however, that Emmeline Vance isn't dead, that Snape
gave her the Draught of Living Death to fake her death and make
himself appear loyal to LV. So, while, IMO, her death doesn't prove
that he's evil, her being alive through his efforts would certainly be
convincing evidence that he's good (meaning DDM or on the good side).
I'd be interested in hearing anyone else's thoughts on Emmeline Vance.
We don't even know at this point what her job for the Order was, but
she's in the photo that Moody shows Harry, so it's the second time
around for her. (On a less serious note, I'd also like to know why
Dedalus Diggle keeps popping up in every book.)
Carol, hoping that Emmeline Vance is the person DD had in mind in his
"they can't kill you if you are already dead" speech, which seems to
have been edited out because it gave too much away
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