SPOILER - Final Predictions - 1 - Godrics Hollow - what really happened

[tinglinger]

No: HPFGUIDX 171794

James and Lilly Potter were both hired as alchemists by
Albus Dumbledore and Nicholas Flamel when they graduated
from Hogwarts.
They learned all about making a Sorcerers Stone from
Dumbledore who had learned about it from Nicholas Flamel.
They knew about the prophecy from Dumbledore and knew that
Voldemort would try to kill Harry.
They also knew that if Harry was made immortal temporarily by
drinking the Elixir of Life that if Voldemort tried to kill
Harry, the spell just might destroy him instead. Irresistable
force (AK spell) vs the immovable object (immortality albeit
temporary)
Harry was given the Elixir which was precious and not mass
producable otherwise the entire order would have used it.
Voldemort goes to Godrics Hollow and surprises the Potters.
When Voldemort attempts to use the AK spell on Harry, that
spell hits an immortal person and bounces back on Voldemort
destroying his body.


An alternate approach that ties in even better is that Snape
finds out the plan and tells Voldemort who agrees to spare
Lily in exchange for the information on the Potters whereabouts.
When Lily tries to defend Harry, Voldemort kills her. This is
the betrayal that so haunts Snape through the years and why he
would vow to protect Harry and ultimately kill Voldemort. Note
that Snape and Voldemort are never together anywhere in the series.
Also using this idea, Voldemort knows the plan to make Harry
immortal and does NOT use the avada kedavra spell on Harry. He
knows that the AK will not work on an immortal and since his
Horcrux approach never really makes him alive (Hagrid quote)
he is willing to go the Elixir to achieve immortality like Flamel.
Snape is aware of this effect (his stopper death comment in SS
to the first DADA class) as no doubt is Voldemort.
But Voldemorts soul is scattered .... so he needs a fresh start.
And that fresh start would be Harry's soul ....
The spell that Voldemort tried to do that failed was a SWITCHING
SPELL.... and that did not work from an animate to an inanimate
object.... therefore the destruction of Voldemorts body and the
house. Voldemort knew later that he can use the Elixir to create
a new body.....
Thats why the desire of Voldemort to find the Sorcerers Stone started
the series.

My earlier post of two years ago discussing this with more canon is
as below ----
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The way the Harry Potter series concludes can be guessed at
by a careful reading of the SORCERER'S STONE

At the time of the first book, we know the following -
1. Albus Dumbledore and Nicholas Flamel are currently
partners in their alchemy practice (SS 103 - frog card)
2. When Harry tells Hermione about Dumbledore's frog card,
she rushes off to find an "enormous old book" that says
that "NIcholas Flamel is the only known maker of the
Sorcerer's Stone." (SS 220)
3. If the book is that old, it might have been written ages
ago before Dumbledore was Flamel's partner or even a wizard.
Ol' Albus is only 150 or so, not quite the 665 that Flamel
was when that "old" book was written.
4. Therefore, though we are led to believe that there was
only ONE sorcerer's stone, that may have been the case long
ago when the book was published. It might not necessarily
be the case now.
5. Ron adds "no wonder we couldn't find Flamel in the Study
of Recent Developments in Wizardry.... he's not exactly
recent if he's 665, is he?" --- and THAT WAS AT THE TIME THE
"OLD" BOOK WAS PUBLISHED.

So.... since Dumbledore and Flamel are partners it is not
unreasonable to conclude that -
a- Dumbledore also knows how to make the stone - Nicholas
Flamel taught him
b- There may be more than just "the one stone currently in
existence" - that was at the time of the old book, not now.
c- given that Voldemort's soul is split How does this play out?



IMPLICATIONS FOR JAMES LILY AND HARRY
THE LILY & JAMES ALCHEMIST THEORY
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1. After James and Lily leave Hogwarts, they are both hired
to work as apprentices for the Dumbledore Flamel Alchemy
partnership. There is no canon for this so i am making a
reach here .... However, I don't have to reach very far as
you may agree by the time you finish reading this. If this
occupational choice is valid however, a lot of things fall
into place quite nicely........
2. Because they are apprentices for Dumbledore and Flamel,
the pay is quite good (ya think?). They can get all the
gold they could ever want from the Sorcerer's Stone, gold
that is not Leprechaun's Gold, gold that can be stored in
a vault in Gringott's and spent. Or in the Potter's
unfortunate case, saved for Harry. And of course the gold
would have been kept in Gringott's - houses burn down
don't they? (SS 63).
Now we have a reasonable guess for how the Potters got their
fortune. Remember, it is not the only possible guess, but it
is not one that can be ruled out as ridiculous...
3. Being Head Boy and Head Girl and from Gryffindor, Lily
and James seem to be the perfect choice for apprentices. But
why would they be needed? In fact why are they VITAL for the
job? Here is where the second stretch comes in, but once
again, if you buy into it, the payoff is huge........
4. Remember that during the time the Potters graduated
rom Hogwarts, Voldemort was near the height of his powers.
The wizarding world, and the order in particular (moony's
photo and explanation to Harry in OOP supports this) was
in deep trouble. As Lupin says to Molly in OOP ch 9
"last time we were outnumbered 20 to 1 by the Death Eaters
and they were picking us off one by one.....".
Outnumbered and outgunned - the order was indeed in trouble.
So what to do ? what to do? Well, now we will find out why
the Potter's were REALLY hired as apprentices of the
partnership.....
5. Dumbledore had a plan that he had tried once before
with mixed results (more on this later .....). Remember that
the second property of the SOrcerer's stone is that "It also
produced the Elixir of Life, which will make the drinker
immortal". Now what if Harry was given the Elixir of Life,
and Voldemort has this prophecy that he heard about Harry,
and he tries to kill Harry who now is immortal ---- what
would happen to the target of that spell -- or its caster???
An irresistable force against an immovable object........
an AK cast on an eternal being !!!!! Would that spell not
create an effect similar to a priori incantatum - or better
yet, rebound automatically on the caster?
So in other words, Dumbledore set a trap for Voldemort --
Harry always was the intended target (or more accurately the
weapon). Dumbledore defeats the dark wizard and the Wizarding
world is saved. But something goes horribly wrong and James
and Lily are killed - despite Hagrid's rant

CAR CRASH! roared Hagrid, .... How could a car crash kill Lily an'
James? It's an outrage! A scandal.
If only he knew..... or did he?


And Harry survives as a boy, but a boy who is alchemistically
enhanced. Enhanced in such a way that he must be kept away from
wizards until he is ready to deal with it - an isolated
super-wizard.


So now you have the Lily & James are Alchemists Theory
as described above, and here is why it makes even more sense.......


You might ask why James and Lily would agree to such a thing?
Even for all the gold in Gringot's! Two reasons.
First, the wizarding world and the order are doomed if nothing is
done, and second BECAUSE DUMBLEDORE HAS DONE IT ALL BEFORE AND
SUCCEEDED..... almost.

----- more to follow -----

but one last point ... in my original Manxmouse theory I talked about
Harry being totally artificial - I am not so sure about that theory
now and feel more comfortable with "alchemically enhanced" rather than
Pinocchio - though either are supported ......
however, Voldemort does say to Harry (ss 293-294)
".. and ONCE I HAVE THE ELIXIR OF LIFE I WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE A BODY
OF MY OWN ...."
so there is another little property of the stone we should be aware
of.