[HPforGrownups] Re: Chamber of Secrets - plot to make terrible things happen at Hogwarts

[dracojadon at yahoo.co.uk]

No: HPFGUIDX 171812

Juli:
> He knew that Tom Riddle had opened the
> Chamber 50 years ago, and I'm sure he told Lucius that the diary will
> reopen the Chamber. As Dumbledore says he surely didn't know it was an
> Horcrux, but I bet he knew it contained instructions on how to open  
> the
> Chamber.

Jadon:
The thing is, even if LV had mentioned to Lucius that the diary  
contained the memory, could he really know what his sixteen-year-old  
self would do? Diary!Riddle has a mind of his own, and nothing but  
contempt for LV, who has been through so many transformations and  
pieces of dark magic that he is quite unrecognisable. Does he  
remember himself as Riddle? I don't think he cares much for the  
Chamber anymore -- it's Lucius that masterminds the villainy of CoS  
-- and really, is it much of a 'plot,' that Dobby says has brewing  
for months? Doesn't Lucius have anything better to do? What on earth  
does he hope to achieve? He must know that the chances of having the  
Chamber opened are sketchy; he knows that last time it was opened  
Slytherin's work was hardly begun.

If his aim is really to rid Hogwarts of its muggle-borns (and I'm  
coming to think that almost no-one actually cares two hoots for the  
blood ancestry of a bunch of teenagers, it's a cover for all sorts of  
individual machinations) -- wouldn't he have a far better chance of  
success using his influence on the board of governors? Using his  
influence/gold with the Ministry? Using his influence with society?

I'm going to have to conclude that Lucius is a bit stupid, really,  
based on CoS. A ploy to make us sorrier for Draco? A not very well  
thought out storyline?

Now, even if this is all that goes Lucius's head, why is Dobby so  
anxious to warn *Harry*? Harry is not a muggle-born. Tom Riddle has  
never heard of Harry. Harry is not in the front firing line. Dobby  
showers praise on Harry's abilities and bravery. Dobby should know  
Harry can take care of himself. His story is that Harry is too  
'good', 'great,' and 'important' to lose. Are we to think that he is  
so disgusted with the Malfoys and their allegiances that he's (in  
secret) whole-heartedly embracing the side of light, and its main  
symbol, the Boy who Lived? If so, why isn't he embracing some of its  
other values, and warning people like Hermione, Dean, and Justin?

I don't think there can be much more to CoS than we already know --  
JKR can hardly rewrite the storyline five books later, in DH. But its  
logic, at this point, is not convincing me.

va32h:
> Now while we are on the subject - I have to wonder if Lucius *did*  
> know
> the diary was a horcrux, and wanted to get rid of it.

Jadon:
That would tie better with my preferred opinion of Lucius: that he's  
not, actually, stupid; but -- you don't get rid of a horcrux by  
throwing it into the wild; you destroy it by -- by -- by casting it  
into Mount Doom!

Jadon