Snape/Lily love or obsession
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 26 04:54:35 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 172916
> > Alla:
> >
> > No, I find the word used just the possible sign for future
> > developments, not a pretty one, no, but if used alone of course I
> > won't accuse ten year old of stalking.
> >
> > The strongest evidence to me of obsession is Snape searching Sirius
> > room, taking a **private** letter from one friend to another,
> > tearing apart that letter, taking with him the part where Lily
> > signature was AND in addition to this, doing something so much
> > creepier - tearing apart the photograph that does not belong to him
> > either and **KEEPING** it.
> >
> > I am half expecting as I mentioned before to see the police
> finding
> > many pictures of Lily in his room
>
> Julie:
> That is one interpretation, and I doubt I'll change your
> mind. But it is the only time we see him even in possession
> of a picture of Lily, so it's just as likely that he's never
> had a picture of her and he reacts emotionally to this picture
> because of that fact. Additionally, why wouldn't he just take
> the part of the picture that means something to him? He hated
> James--and the feeling was completely mutual. Why would Snape
> want a picture of him, or of baby Harry, who he really didn't
> know?
Valky now:
I'm wondering, now, in aside to this, how did the image of Lily react
to being torn away from the rest of the happy scene with her beloved
family, if at all. It would be sad for Snape if it took the smile from
her face, but maybe in the same if it did, a lesson for him as well...
I mean, when he tore the picture I honestly thought to him 'get a
clue Severus' he never seemed to understand her bond with her family
at all, he didn't seem to notice what a large part of her that was, I
think he got himself a picture of only half of Lily, in any case, and
I noted it down as another tragic flaw.
> > > Lisa:
> > <BIG SNIP>
> > > But what did he do, when faced presented with the
> > > opportunity to harm someone he found annoying? He attempted
> > murder-
> > > by-Lupin.
> > <HUGE SNIP>
> >
> >
> > Alla:
> >
> > Attempted murder is not in canon and judging by Lily's reaction, I
> > would really say it was not that IMO.
Lisa:
The attempted murder most certainly is in canon: Sirius knowingly
and purposely lured Snape to a spot where he would certainly be
killed (or at the very least, maimed and turned into a werewolf) by a
werewolf. James obviously saw the extreme danger in it as well, and
saved Snape from such a fate, and saved Sirius from ... what?
Expulsion, if not actual prosecution, depending upon wizarding laws
regarding attempted murder. And I hardly think any court, wizarding
or otherwise, would say it wasn't attempted murder simply because a
16 year old girl didn't seem to think it was anything but a prank.
Valky:
There'll be no swaying you from this opinion, will there Lisa?
FWIW, Snape knew what he was getting himself in to, and in all
likelihood Sirius knew that he knew.
But moreover I wonder just how anyone could cling to the notion that
Sirius, the boy who looked forward every day to a romp in the field
with the clawed cursed creature would ever have thought Lupin
dangerous at all, let alone a opportunity to murder someone. It just
doesn't fit, Sirius was just never cognisant of the danger, he was ten
times the reckless fool James was and that has got to be saying
something considering what we know of James and Harry who were alike
in that regard, and to him, Lupin was little more than an animated
Teddy bear, Lupin never went easy on his friends when he was in
werewolf form, Sirius spent his time with the werewolf in constant
mortal peril and clearly as of the pensieve scene, he didn't have a
high regard of that fact at all. So I ask, if Sirius wanted someone
dead, don't you think he would have used something he actually
believed was deadly?
Valky
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