Questions for JKR

[Annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 173265

  
> Annemehr:
> > Well, if Harry's correct in his explanation to LV in the Great 
> Hall, Snape would never have become master of the wand by killing 
DD, 
> because he would not have *defeated* DD; it was something they 
> planned between them.
> > 
> > I think a very similar reason would apply when LV AKed Harry in 
the 
> > Forest: it wasn't a defeat of Harry, because it's what Harry 
wanted 
> for him to do.
> > 
> 
> Dung:
> But Harry didn't know that he was going to come back, he thought he 
> was going to die, and Voldy thought (or hoped) he was going to die. 
> It would have been the end of the only one who could (according to 
> the prophecy) get rid of Voldy for good. Now if *Voldy* had been in 
> on it too, I could see your reasoning.

Annemehr:
I think the key is that Harry and LV had the same goal: for LV to AK 
Harry, so LV did not defeat Harry in any way, meaning he did not gain 
mastery.  

Whether or not Harry actually properly died is a separate issue. (Of 
course, DD, who sent Harry to die, knew he wouldn't be properly dead 
anyway because of the shared blood bearing Lily's protection, so it's 
kind of a non-issue, too.)


Dung:
> 
> Look at it this way: if Snape had been ESE! and killed DD *not* 
> because DD wanted him to, but because he wanted to further 
> Voldemort's agenda, or because he truly hated DD, Snape *would* 
have 
> become the master of the wand, wouldn't he?
> 

Annemehr:
Yep -- but ONLY if DD DIDN'T actually want him to kill him.

Just for fun, here's another angle.  Suppose the plan for Snape to 
kill DD is on, but then to DD's great surprise, when Draco appears on 
the tower he AKs DD immediately.  In that case, I'm figuring Draco is 
now the master of the Elder Wand because, regardless of the fact DD 
planned to die that night, he didn't want it to be Draco.

Or suppose, the night before the Epilogue happens, Harry is brushing 
up little James's Expelliarmus skills, and James manages to disarm 
Harry.  Then, James does not become the master of the Elder Wand, 
because Harry wanted James to be successful at the lesson.

I think.

Dung:
> Speaking of which, did Grindelwald "come quietly" or not? 'Cause if 
> he did, DD couldn't have gained mastery of the wand.

Annemehr:
Don't get me started on that one.  Legend says it was a great duel, 
but Skeeter's book alleges something funny going on -- and here, I'm 
inclined to believe Skeeter's put in at least a grain of the truth.  
Wish JKR had bothered to have Harry ask KingsCross!DD how he'd won a 
duel against the unbeatable wand when he had the chance.

Annemehr