That ugly baby thing.

[Steve]

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---  "Sandra Collins" <sandra87b at ...> wrote:
>
> Having put down the book after reading the King's 
> Cross chapter again, I still don't get the whole ugly
> baby thing. ... how Voldermort was meant to be an ugly
> baby under a bench. I  don't understand the symbolism 
> or maybe the reality? Could anyone enlighten me ...
> 
> Sandra x.
>

bboyminn:

I can't tell you what 'is', I can only tell you what
I think. 

When Voldemort cast the Killing Curse against Harry 
using a Wand that considered Harry it's Master, I
believed the curse rebounded and sent both Harry
and Voldemort into "Limbo" or the 'Twilight' 
between life and death. 

So, in this 'twilight' we see Harry's soul and
Voldemort's soul. In the discussion with Dumbledore,
Dumbledore says that the soul bit that was in Harry
has been destroyed. Because of this, I believe that
the 'ugly baby' Harry sees is the totality of 
Voldemort's remaining soul. 

Keep in mind however, that Harry is creating his 
own experience in 'Twilight'. He needs clothes,
so his mind creates clothes. He needs council, so
his mind creates Dumbledore. When he needs to make
physical sense of his location, he creates King's
Cross Station. Note that rarely does Dumbledore 
actually give any information. Mostly, he simply 
tells Harry that he already knows the answer, and
Harry works it out for himself. Even when Dumbledore
is speaking, I believe it is really Harry's own
subconscious speaking.  

This is key. Harry is creating his experience, but
that means that Voldemort is also creating his own
experience. Voldemort does not hear Harry and 
Dumbledore's conversation; that is Harry's experience.
Voldemort wrestles with his own demons during that 
time, or simply remains lost in the white void.

When Harry decides to come back, Voldemort comes back.
But at the moment, I believe that if Harry had 
decided to go 'on'; Voldemort would have been faced 
with the same choice. Since he feared death and still 
had remaining Horcruxes, Voldemort would have come back
to life and carried on. They both remained in limbo only
as long as Harry had not made a decision. Once Harry 
decides, they go their separate ways. 

So, I don't think the Ugly Baby is the fragment of 
Voldemort soul that was trapped in Harry. Dumbledore
says that was destroyed. I think it was Voldemort's
spiritual self. Further, I think Voldemort had is own
unique experience during the time both he and Harry
were 'out'. 

This is a very murky area, and I have only reached this
conclusion after much thought. Though, after much more
thought, I could change my mind. But, I doubt it.

Steve/bboyminn