Deathly Hallows Reaction - Could do Better, Sorry

[shagufta_naazpk2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 173739

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:
>
> > >>Betsy Hp:
> > > <snip> 
> > > JKR apparently looks at the world around her and thinks, "I 
know > > > in my heart that a quarter of the people out there are 
evil, half > > > of them are okay, and there's one quarter that's 
just > > unquestionably good." 
> > > It's an ugly view of the world in my opinion.  And it 
cumlminates> > > in a rather ugly book with a rather ugly message.  
> 
> > >>Shagufta:
> > > So you think the world is made up of good people and only good
> > > people? This world of ours where murder and torture and 
terrorism
> > > are a sad reality - this world is made up of good people?
> > > <snip>

Hi 
Actually i was responding to the fact that you contrasted JK's 
(alleged) world view with Anne Frank's. I thought you were saying 
that unlike Anne Frank, who went through hell and still retained the 
optimistic view of 'people are basically good' JK had a very cynical 
view of the world and the people in it.

And my point is that, if that is her philosophy, i think it is more 
realistic than saying 'everyone is good'

 
> Betsy Hp:
> I think it's impossible to decide someone is going to be a 
terroist > and a murderer at age eleven. <<<

I think - and i'm venturing into murky warters here - that JK's 
house systme is more of a symbolic representation of the world as 
she sees it. Most people are good (all the Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw 
took up for Harry in the end) but there are some who are bad and you 
have to deal with it.

> 
> However, that's not how JKR sees it.  Some (few) people are good, 
> some are bad, and that can easily be determined by a magical hat 
at>>> age eleven.<<


I think what everyone keeps missing when talking about the Hat is 
that it does not force any kid into any house. It allows for Choice. 
And Choice is a big word in JK's world.

And i don't think Harry was the only one to get to choose. We know 
for a fact that the Hat suggested Ravenclaw to Hermione but she 
chose Gryffindor. Here's my take on some of the conversations the 
Hat had with some characters:

Sirius Black
Hat: Hmm...of good Slytherin stock i see...
Sirius: Oh no, please, not Slytherin
Hat:No? But you could do well there, you have all it takes...
Sirius: No please - let me be in Gryffindor.
Hat: Hmm..well, if that's what you want


Nevill Longbottom
Hat: Hmm..lots of potential but no self confidence, maybe i should 
put you in Hufflepuff, they'll be kind to you
Nevill: My parents were in Gryfindor. if I'm not there my Gran will 
kill me
Hat: Gryffindor...you might have a tough time there..
Nevill: Oh please put me in Gryfindor..\
Hat..well if you insist...

So, what i'm saying, the Hat is an opportunity for children to 
choose, not an absolute decree. But ofcourse, 11 is too young to 
choose for some, and that's exactly what Dumbledore implied.
 
> Betsy Hp:
> Harry's son James didn't learn his "Slytherin is bad" attitude in 
a >>> vacuum though.  So there's commentary on the 
commentary.  "Slytherin > is okay ::wink, wink, nudge, nudge:: 
except for how it totally isn't."


He could have learnt that at school, no? He's spent a year in the 
Gryffindor common room after all.
 

just my confused thoughts
cheers
Shagufta