Snape, again...(was Re: Come on folks)

jkoney65 jkoney65 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 30 22:51:23 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 173877

> Carol responds:
<SNIP>
>> Instead of brilliant Snape banter resembling his exchange with
> Bellatrix in "Spinner's End," we get a Snape who keeps repeating his
> request with greater and greater desperation and who fears, as
> Voldemort and Nagini slither out together, that all is lost. It
isn't
> fear of death, it's fear that everything he and Dumbledore have
> struggled for will be over. Yes, his voice is silenced (except for
> that surprising and IMO supremely meaning ful last request), but
he's
> dying. And the loss of his voice is almost compensated for by his
last
> amazing feat of magic, sending memories out from his own head.
<snip>

Jack-A-Roe:
That's my whole problem with Snape in that scene. He wasn't prepared.
As a double agent, he needed to be prepared for the moment he was
found out. And while he wasn't found out, he put himself in grave
danger by being unprepared. He had to know that something was coming,
but did he try to reach for his wand? No. Did he try anything? No.
All his cunning and guile left him when he needed it the most. We all
know that the "medicore" Harry would have been looking for a way out
of the situation, he would have been ready to fight back. We've seen
him, over the prior six books, improvise his way out of dangerous
situations.

Carol:
> I've already explained why I don't think a last Harry-Snape
> confrontation would have worked.

Jack-A-Roe:
Agreed, Harry never would have listened to anything he had to say
because the last time he saw him was when he killed Dumbledore.



<snip>
Carol:
<SNIP>
 > At any rate, it's clear that Snape doesn't understand Harry and
judges
> him on his "mediocrity" (and Harry's performance in most of his
> classes merits that description).

Jack-A-Roe:
Snapes effectiveness as a teacher leaves much to be desired. From
what we can see through out the books his classes are not well
taught. Only eight people received O's in his class. Many of them are
probably like Hermione who learned it by reading and studying the
books they had. Insults and snarky comments to the students are not a
way to teach someone.

The occlumancy lessons were a fiasco. The phrase clear your mind
doesn't mean much if you don't explain what or how one is to do that.

Giving him credit for teaching Expelliarmus is a stretch. It's a
basic spell that they would have learned from one of their teachers
as they went through school. I'd say he learned much more from
Hermione as he studied for the TWT.

Carol:
 He fears that Harry will be
> inadequately prepared. And if Harry had not had Hermione to protect
> him with spells that she may well have learned from Snape

Jack-A-Roe:
But most likely learned somewhere else like preparing Harry for the
TWT, from the DA, or else from a book she read.







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