[HPforGrownups] On Children and the "Other" (was:Re: On the perfection of moral virtues)

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Fri Jun 1 02:49:00 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 169592

> > >>Mike:
> > > You "tolerate" anyone who has not wronged you. (I agree with
> Betsy's interpretation of the term "tolerate" and how she applied it versus "appreciate"). If you have no reasonable grounds to oppose the other, you follow the Golden Rule. Once you've been wronged, your response should be measured by what degree that wrong against you rose to. Again, all my opinion.
>
> lizzyben04:
> See, this is where I disagree, & this is my fundamental problem with
> the series. Under a real system of laws, EVERYONE is entitled to
> fairness, respect, rights and tolerance. Everyone is protected by
> those laws, and they should be applied equally and without
> prejudice. That's the fundamental basis of our democracy, and our
> Constitution. "All men are created equal, all endowed with the right
> to life, liberty & happiness..."

Kemper now:
That's not true, but it should be.  EVERYONE is not entitled to _______ .
Each group of persons has to fight for that right of entitlement.

You quote from the US Declaration of Independence.  White, male land
(and slave) owners had to fight for their right to be independent of
the British monarchy.

White men did not wake up one morning and think, "You know whose vote
is missing and very much needed in today's elections?  Women."  Women
had to fight for that right.  It was not freely given.

Employers/bosses did not wake up one morning and think, "You know who
has been working long hours for little pay?  Labor.  From now on, I'm
going to pay them time and half if they work over say 40 hours a week.
 The 80 they have been working is way too much.  I should give them 2
days off a week as well."  Labor had to fight for the Fair Labor
Standards

Emancipation was not freedom.  The US Civil Rights movement existed
because blacks, though free, were treated inhumanely and with
disregard.  Whites did not wake up one morning thinking, "You know
who's missing from my child's school?  Black kids."  Blacks had to
fight for the rights whites' had.  It was not given freely, or easily.

JKR shows/implies through a History of Magic that Goblin Rebellions
have occurred.  Why?  Because they were repressed and fought for their
rights.  Wizards did no give it freely.

Or at least, that's my impression.

I admire Herminone's desire to start a revolution, but she goes about
it all wrong.
The Elves need to initiate the fight for their rights to live without
ties to a wizard.

Wizards are like Muggles: Human.

But I digress.

Kemper




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