Marietta

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 169622

> >>> Alla:
> >>> She was not even forcefully dragged to Dolores UMbridge, she 
went on her own.
> >
> > Alla:
> > I thought Dolores Umbridge said so - that Marietta went to her.
> 
> Random832:
> So now we're trusting HER word? (This may sound facetious, but, 
really,
> doesn't Umbridge have an interest in covering up any torture / 
extortion
> / blackmail etc that was involved in getting the information?)
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Alla:

Sure, I do in this situation unless I hear something to the opposite. 
JKR has to give us some true facts sometimes, doesn't she? Does 
Umbridge have an interest in covering torture and blackmail? Sure she 
does. Just in the reading of the scene I saw no hints that this is 
what she was doing, that's all.

She sounded to me, I don't know - gleeful, not fearful that she has 
to hide something and trying to come up with convincing lie.


I mean, we do trust Umbridge when she says that Snape's class is 
advanced, do we not?



> Bart:
> I am going to go as far as to say the overwhelming majority of the 
people here are in agreement on two points:
> 
> 1) The initial punishment of Marietta was reasonable.
> 2) The fact that it continued into (was allowed to continue into) 
the next sememster was not.


Alla:

I know several people who disagree on first point, I do not, I 
definitely agree on both.