On Children and the "Other" (was:Re: On the perfection of moral virt

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 169635

> > Alla:
> > 
> > I characterise it as slandering Harry at the very least, so yeah, 
I 
> > see it as a lack of respect, moreover I always compare it to the 
> > attack of the vicious dog on the innocent kid. So, yeah, poles 
> > apart :)
> 
> Pippin:
> Whoa! In what way is being asked a few questions by a school
> teacher the same as being attacked by a vicious dog? 

Alla:

In metaphorical way, Pippin, in metaphorical. I should have said 
though - I see it this way after reading OOP and HBP. I always hated 
what Snape did to Harry on his first lesson, but such a strong 
metahor came to me rereading the books in light of the later ones. 

But now when I reread PS/SS - oh **Yes**, vicious dog, absolutely. 
IMO of course.


Pippin: 
> Snape's instruction to the class to write all this down
> shows that in fact he doesn't expect anyone to know the
> answers. What is Harry's attitude? That he should only be asked
> questions about things he knows and that there is
> something shameful about admitting he doesn't know things
> that many of the other students don't know? That *is* arrogant.


Alla:

We disagree on that.


 
Pippin: 
> Harry's reaction to his underserved (at this point) fame is
> to think he should live up to it. That's a laudable ambition...
> or it would be if Harry's reputation was as positive as he 
> thinks it is. He doesn't know his reputation includes 
> prospective leader of the Dark Forces.  Whatever else
> you want to say about Snape's first class, it squashed
> that rumor so thoroughly that it didn't surface again for
> a year, by which time Harry was far better equipped to
> cope with it.

Alla:

I do not see the relevance of this paragraph. My point is that Snape 
insinuated Harry enjoying his celebrity status and that he had no 
right whatsoever to do that, if he had any decency in him or any 
remorse, that's all.

JMO.