On Jurisprudence (was:Re: On the perfection of moral virtues)

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 169646

> In:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/messages/169611

> > Goddlefrood:
> > Hence my view that there is no separation of powers, as 
> > there would be in many, but not all, real world nation 
> > states, in the wizarding world.

> Random832:

> And, notably, not Britain itself, where the executive is 
> the leader of the majority party and the court of last 
> resort is the upper house.

Goddlefrood:

I'll give you 3 out of 10. The executive authority resides de 
jure in the Queen, although no exercise of veto has taken place 
for some centuries.

The Law Lords, part of the House of Lords constitute the Court 
of last resort, which is now complicated somewhat by the EC and 
its various Courts.

In the WW the Wizengamot is both the Judiciary and the 
Legislature. It also appears to perform executive functions. 
In other words the law body, which also has arms, such as 
the Council of Magicla Law, effectively controls governance 
in the WW much as had happened in the real world of England 
before 1692 strangely enough when the Royal Court (not a 
jurisprudential body if any wondered) governed the country. 
Scotland joined the Union only in 1707 but had followed a 
similar system as England.

> In:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/messages/169616

> Bart:

> Well, there WAS the time called, depending on who you are 
> talking about, the Civil War, the War Between the States, 
> and the War of the Slaveholder's Rebellion (sorry, carryover 
> from my time in the adult game industry). And, there was 
> the better remembered interrment of Japanese nationals and 
> citizens of Japanese ancestry during WWII (I'll spare you 
> the list of alternative names).

Goddlefrood:

Both are examples of states of war, which are rather different 
from states of emergency. It was, in my divination a state of 
emergency that prevailed in the WW during the latter part of 
the first rise of Voldemort, that may well be where the 11 
years came from ;-)

> Bart:

> Not a good analogy; Guantanamo Bay is a POW camp. What makes 
> it unusual is that the people are being kept as prisoners of 
> war

Goddlefrood:

It was not an analogy, but rather a swipe at the less than 
human rights being given to those detained there, contrary 
to the Constitution of your otherwise fine country.

I do kind of agree with Bart about the various Conventions 
discussed earlier and also stating Wikipedia may be a first 
resort, but should not by any means be thought of as 
authoritive, as it simply isn't. Check out the Witenagemot 
entry and I'll go further in to this ;-)

Goddlefrood who recognises the WW legal system as similar to 
the prevailing system in the benighted isles of some centuries 
ago, where a few quid would keep one out of trouble, whereas 
Lord Levy is a diffent matter altogether ;-)