Prank and various responsibilities WAS: Re: Marietta

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 169672

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> colebiancardi:
> 
> > sure Snape had free will; so did Sirius when he set Snape up. So 
> > did James when he saved Snape's life.  Sirius DID mean for harm to 
> > come to Snape;  James recognized it and Lupin did as well - Lupin 
> > thought it was not Sirius's shining moment there.
> > 
> > It was a trick;  Snape told the truth there; Lupin backed him up.  
> 
> Dana:
> Well it is half the truth actually because James and Lupin where not 
> in on it (I do not know about Peter as it is not mentioned) and Lupin 
> specifically stated; "of course Snape tried it"  specifically meaning 
> that is was Snape's own choice to go and pass the willow, something 
> that was specifically forbidden to go near by the Head Master 
> himself. 
> 
> But I will try to explain why *I believe* it was Snape's own 
> responsibility and not Sirius's, with an analogy as it is actually 
> quite similar. I will ask some specific questions and give my own 
> personal opinion by answering. You can do this too if you see it 
> differently, of course. 
> 
> Hagrid was tricked into telling the secret on how to get passed 
> Fluffy. 
> 

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colebiancardi:

Big huge difference in the Hagrid/Trio scenerio & the Sirius/Snape
scenerio.

Big one.  Both parties, the Trio & Snape were looking for information.
 That is where the similarities end.

Hagrid wasn't trying to get the kids hurt here. He goofed - he isn't
the sharpest tool in the woodshed, although he has a good heart. 
Hagrid wasn't trying to "trick" the kids in stumbling over Fluffy - he
honestly didn't want them there.  Hagrid wasn't trying to set a trap
for the Trio.

Sirius, on the other hand, WAS trying to get Snape hurt.  Sirius set a
trap for Snape and Snape took the bait.

The motive is what matters.  Hagrid's motive was not to get the kids
hurt.  Sirius's motive was to hurt Snape.  I mean, what else is a
werewolf going to do with any human?  Lupin turned on the trio and
Sirius when he turned and these were his friends.  James knew EXACTLY
what Sirius was up to and what could happen to Snape, which is why
James intervened.

It is true that neither the Trio or Snape needed to act on the
information they received; however, the motives behind how the
information was given to them are quite different.  Very different.


Hagrid would have killed himself if the Trio had been killed by
Fluffy.  Sirius would have been overjoyed if Snape had died at the
hands of Lupin.  And Sirius didn't give a second thought about how
Lupin would feel about this matter afterwards.

colebiancardi