Prank and various responsibilities WAS: Re: Marietta

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No: HPFGUIDX 169705

. > wynnleaf
<SNIP>
> I may be completely misunderstanding you, but I'm guessing here 
that
> you're drawing some sort of correlation between there being *one*
> question on the DADA OWL exam -- an exam for which Snape apparently
> writes long answers for all the questions  -- and the fact that 
Snape
> had the students in 3rd year DADA class read the 3rd year text's
> chapter on werewolves.  So what?  You're saying that it's 
suspicious
> that Snape answered the werewolf question well on his DADA OWL?  
And
> that therefore he likely knew Lupin was a werewolf?  


Alla:

Yes, I do think that it is a possibility, yes. I think it is 
suspicious, which may mean nothing or IMO mean something.


wynnleaf:
> Based on this logic, we must assume that the year Lupin taught at
> Hogwarts, no DADA students taking their OWLs were able to correctly
> answer a question on werewolves, because otherwise, they, like 
Snape
> supposedly did, should have been able to figure out that Lupin was 
a
> werewolf.  Since no one other than Hermione figured it out, should 
we
> then assume that OWL level students (hey, not to mention that 
year's
> 6th and 7th years), were all completely unable to answer OWL level
> questions on werewolves?  
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Alla:

It is your assumption, not mine. I think it is a faulty assumption, 
because I do not think that person answering question on werewolves 
**necessarily** means that they could figure it out. I think the 
fact that Hermione did though, means that **some** people could 
figure out that and Snape certainly seems sharp enough for me to 
make a comparison, after all he was taking a very close interest in 
life of Marauders.

wynnleaf: 
> Or is it only Snape who would have the amazing perspicacity to both
> answer a DADA exam question on werewolves correctly *and* be 
assumed
> to recognize Lupin was a werewolf? 
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Alla:

Yep, I think it is a possibility. Snape's intelligence is certainly 
below average IMO.


wynnleaf: 
> Just remember, for an entire academic year, *no* student other than
> Hermione figured out that Lupin was a werewolf.  That includes the 
6th
> and 7th year students, as well as the students in the DADA class 
that
> saw Lupin's boggart. 


Alla:

Maybe. Or maybe some students did and since they were not all the 
bigots of Slytherin variety, they decided to keep Lupin's secret. I 
think there is nothing in canon that contradicts my speculation.




> wynnleaf,
> Wow, that's a leap.  We go from Snape knowing Lupin was a werewolf
> before he entered the tunnel (directly contradicted by Lupin, by 
the
> way, as I pointed out in my last post -- Lupin said, "from that 
time
> on he knew what I was"), to Snape actually wanting to *kill* Lupin 
the
> werewolf -- directly contradicted by Sirius, by the way, who said
> Snape was trying to get them expelled. 


Alla:

**Of course** it is a leap, as I stated numerous times I 
**speculate** on this topic not in the less because I believe we are 
missing information on Prank. When I speculate I make a leap based 
on the what I believe could be smallest hint in canon. I believe 
such hint exists. You do not believe so, so we just agree to disagree

> Magpie:
> If Snape didn't want to face a werewolf and knew Lupin was a 
werewolf
> waiting for him, he would obviously not have gone into the tunnel. 
No one
> in canon has ever suggested this different situation you've 
described where
> Snape has been goaded into proving he's not a coward by facing a 
werewolf
> on purpose. 


Alla:

And still in PoA Snape goes to the Shack knowing that he may face a 
werewolf, does he not? I think Snape will be very happy to kill a 
werewolf or two. Just **speculating** here of course.

As to nobody in canon ever suggested that situation - eh, of course 
they did not, if it meant to be a surprise in book 7 IMO. And I do 
not believe that it will take a lot of effort to change the picture 
we have now with the missing information and all that. 


But for the record if it is true, the speculation, I do not believe 
Marauders knew that Snape figured it out. I think he decided to 
outsmart them and go. So, Sirius responsibility is still there, 
really.

Of course Snape dear becomes even more disgusting if that 
**speculation** is true.

But of course it may not be true. It is after all just speculation.



 
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
> But regardless, why does Sirius not tell us that this is what 
happened if
> that's what happened? Why does he tell a different story, the same 
one
> Snape and Lupin tell, instead?


Alla:

There meant to be blanks if we are due for surprise IMO and I do not 
remember anything in Sirius version that contradicts that possible 
surprise.

**Especially** if Sirius has no clue that Snape figured it out that 
Remus is a werewolf.