Prank and various responsibilities WAS: Re: Marietta
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 3 20:09:38 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169730
> Magpie:
> So you mean that once James rescued him (Snape having walked into
the Shack
> and then realized he made a mistake) Snape re-imagined the story
so that he
> didn't know what he really did know, denying his intentions?
> How it would come out, given that we're supposed to think that
Snape's the
> only one who knows it? Is it something that Snape himself had sort
of
> repressed but that would come out, like, in a fight with Lupin
where he
> said something like "I should have killed you that night like I
wanted to?"
> shocking both himself and Lupin?
Alla:
No, not quite. If this speculation is true, I meant that it is
possible that Snape is not telling ALL about what he **knows**
happened that night. I also meant that the fact that Snape learned
about who Remus is ( maybe short time before he entered the Shack or
not) for Snape does not change the fact that **Sirius** tried to
kill him.
I do not think Snape is repressing anything here, just not telling
**if this speculation is true**. I think he is perfectly aware of
what happened.
Sure, fight with Lupin is one thing it can come out if this is true.
Magpie:
> What would that revelation add to the story? Because I do expect
more
> complications about the past and I could easily believe plenty of
them will
> make Snape look bad--along the way we've gotten pretty equal
revelations
> that make both sides look bad. (James is shown pantsing Snape in
OotP--but
> in HBP Snape was revealed to be the eavesdropper who therefore
killed
> James.)
Alla:
Frankly, I have no idea what this speculation will add to the story.
I am perfectly **fine** with the story as it is and absolutely cool
with Prank being the mixt of Sirius reckless idiocy and Snape
putting his nose where it does not belong.
All that I am saying is that I find those werewolf essays to be
suspicious that is why regardless of what this will end to the
story, I speculate that there is something behind it **or not**.
I am also saying that Prank with the blanks we have IMO is one of
the fairest places in the book to try and fill those blanks.
Magpie:
> However, Snape really wanting to kill Lupin and so undoing the
Prank--while
> that could certainly be something that happened--seems to tip the
balance a
> bit. It essentially just mostly absolves the Marauders and puts
Harry back
> to even less than square one.
<SNIP>
> This secret, if true, basically puts Harry back to his more
comforting PS
> thoughts: yes, it may have seemed like James' friends did
something bad,
> but that's undone because at the critical moment Snape turned the
Prank
> into a murder attempt. So when James saved Snape he was saving him
from
> intentionally risking his own life to kill Lupin. Snape's murderous
> intentions also completely top Sirius' own reckless endangerment.
>
> That could be a big deal for Snape himself as a character if he
were the
> protagonist. It would probably be the moment where Snape realized
he had
> caused his own predicament (which he of course has contributed to
all along
> already).
>
><SNIP>
Alla:
Well, look, it all depends on how far you think the revelations of
Snape ultimate badness will go. I believe that Snape is a scum of
the earth and will not be surprised by any of such revelation.
One way I would imagine it may happen if we learn that Snape just as
Malfoy did ( yes, I know that is not proven but I am convinced that
Malfoy took a mark already) took the mark in school and was already
full of the murderous ideas a la Voldemort - dark creatures need to
be shot indeed.
Would that absolve Marauders? I do not see how. I mean, Sirius will
still look reckless idiot he was, no?
Now, will Marauders look **better** than Snape by comparison if this
speculation is true? Sure thing they will be, but my point is that I
am fan of this speculation not because I want to absolve them. I
just it is textually possible.
Let me say again, I do not care if it does not come true. Canon as
it stands now surely does not mention that Snape knew. I just think
that it may be one of the revelations in book 7.
JMO,
Alla
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