Prank and various responsibilities WAS: Re: Marietta

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 3 20:09:38 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 169730

> Magpie:
> So you mean that once James rescued him (Snape having walked into 
the Shack
> and then realized he made a mistake) Snape re-imagined the story 
so that he
> didn't know what he really did know, denying his intentions?
> How it would come out, given that we're supposed to think that 
Snape's the
> only one who knows it? Is it something that Snape himself had sort 
of
> repressed but that would come out, like, in a fight with Lupin 
where he
> said something like "I should have killed you that night like I 
wanted to?"
> shocking both himself and Lupin?

Alla:

No, not quite. If this speculation is true, I meant that it is 
possible that Snape is not telling ALL about what he **knows** 
happened that night. I also meant that the fact that Snape learned 
about who Remus is ( maybe short time before he entered the Shack or 
not) for Snape does not change the fact that **Sirius** tried to 
kill him.

I do not think Snape is repressing anything here, just not telling 
**if this speculation is true**. I think he is perfectly aware of 
what happened.

Sure, fight with Lupin is one thing it can come out if this is true.


Magpie:
> What would that revelation add to the story? Because I do expect 
more
> complications about the past and I could easily believe plenty of 
them will
> make Snape look bad--along the way we've gotten pretty equal 
revelations
> that make both sides look bad. (James is shown pantsing Snape in 
OotP--but
> in HBP Snape was revealed to be the eavesdropper who therefore 
killed
> James.)

Alla:

Frankly, I have no idea what this speculation will add to the story. 
I am perfectly **fine** with the story as it is and absolutely cool 
with Prank being the mixt of Sirius reckless idiocy and Snape 
putting his nose where it does not belong.

All that I am saying is that I find those werewolf essays to be 
suspicious that is why regardless of what this will end to the 
story, I speculate that there is something behind it **or not**.

I am also saying that Prank with the blanks we have IMO is one of 
the fairest places in the book to try and fill those blanks.



Magpie:
> However, Snape really wanting to kill Lupin and so undoing the 
Prank--while
> that could certainly be something that happened--seems to tip the 
balance a
> bit. It essentially just mostly absolves the Marauders and puts 
Harry back
> to even less than square one.
<SNIP>

> This secret, if true, basically puts Harry back to his more 
comforting PS
> thoughts: yes, it may have seemed like James' friends did 
something bad,
> but that's undone because at the critical moment Snape turned the 
Prank
> into a murder attempt. So when James saved Snape he was saving him 
from
> intentionally risking his own life to kill Lupin. Snape's murderous
> intentions also completely top Sirius' own reckless endangerment.
> 
> That could be a big deal for Snape himself as a character if he 
were the
> protagonist. It would probably be the moment where Snape realized 
he had
> caused his own predicament (which he of course has contributed to 
all along
> already).
> 
><SNIP>


Alla:

Well, look, it all depends on how far you think the revelations of 
Snape ultimate badness will go. I believe that Snape is a scum of 
the earth and will not be surprised by any of such revelation.

One way I would imagine it may happen if we learn that Snape just as 
Malfoy did ( yes, I know that is not proven but I am convinced that 
Malfoy took a mark already) took the mark in school and was already 
full of the murderous ideas a la Voldemort - dark creatures need to 
be shot indeed.

Would that absolve Marauders? I do not see how. I mean, Sirius will 
still look reckless idiot he was, no?


Now, will Marauders look **better** than Snape by comparison if this 
speculation is true? Sure thing they will be, but my point is that I 
am fan of this speculation not because I want to absolve them. I 
just it is textually possible.


Let me say again, I do not care if it does not come true. Canon as 
it stands now surely does not mention that Snape knew. I just think 
that it may be one of the revelations in book 7.

JMO,

Alla





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