Petunia's Eyes/Snape, Snape, Snape
hickengruendler
hickengruendler at yahoo.de
Thu Jun 7 20:38:36 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169972
Random:
> I agree that the bulk of cases are perfectly clear. But, any of the
> theories given here, really _anything_ that she could have said
after
> the "but", are edge cases. We have _no_ information in canon on
whether
> such individuals could or could not be called "muggles", because
there
> are no examples. And don't forget that we have one piece of evidence
> that "muggle" can apply to a 'squib' born even of a pureblood
family.
> Fanon tends to ignore that. (I really think "Fanon" should be a TBAY
> character) This alone indicates that our understanding of the word
> "muggle" is in conflict with JKR's.
Hickengruendler:
I agree with you up to a point. Especially, since the status of
whoever will do magic in Deathly Hallows (or whoever did magic, if
she meant Merope, which I don't think) will probably change. We must
know this character right now either as a Muggle or a Squib (again,
except if she meant Merope), and if said character has done magic, he
is likely seen as a wizard/witch.
But I would say that "Petunia never did any magic and never will"
(see the link in Carol's latest post) is really crystal clear. While
there may be some way for JKR to sneak around the Muggle statement,
this second one really doesn't leave any other explanation, as that
Petunia never did any magic and never will.
Random:
> The "she knows things" angle for that statement isn't credible. OF
> COURSE she knows more about the wizarding world than the average
muggle
> - her sister was a witch, she's the reluctant guardian of Harry
Potter,
> etc. That would be utterly unsurprising and certainly not worth "I'm
> being shockingly indiscreet" for hinting at that, if that were
indeed
> the "but". There has to be something.
Hickengruendler:
But this point was totally downplayed within the books up until OotP.
Therefore Petunia having further knowledge could come as quite a
surprise for several readers. And besides, maybe the surprise is not,
that she has further knowledge, which really could be guessed, but
maybe it is about what exactly she knows, that could give Harry some
further explanation.
Random:
> Regarding the Heir of Gryffindor thing - can you just answer one
thing?
> If he _is_ the Heir of Gryffindor, and it's supposed to be a
surprise,
> what else could she have said?
> --
Hickengruendler:
How about "No, this doesn't rule it out." or "Did I say that?" I
remember a question from before the release of book 5, where someone
asked her, if Trelawney's first prophecy Dumbledore is talking about
at the end of PoA would play a role, and she answered something
like "Very Good". I am sure she wanted this revelation to be a
surprise as well (especially since it happened at the end of the
book), but she was pretty honest in this statement nonetheless.
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