Say it isn't so Lupin!!!
Dana
ida3 at planet.nl
Fri Jun 8 07:55:33 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169993
TKJ:
> Ok so there have been rumblings that someone that Harry thinks is
> an ally will turn on him. Lupin's name came up. I thought about
> this and see that it could happen. Here's my argument:
Dana:
I'm not sure why there is a need for yet another person betraying
Harry in DH. HBP is the first half of two and someone already turned
out to be a traitor there (as it stands now). DH will be about
revealations of the truth, there is no need for yet another traitor
in DH to make the story go forward. JMHO
TKJ:
> LV find out that he is undercover amongst the Werewolves and goes
> to him. Tells him that even if he is defeated that the WW will
> never accept Werewolves among them. Especially, now with DD gone
> what hope does he have? LV explains to him that if he helps he
> promises to let the werewolves be and not have to live in hiding.
Dana:
Harry and Tonks will be his hope. Lupin resents the fact that he is
a werewolf himself and that it made him a ready-made spy. Lupin does
not live in hiding he justs considers himself to dangerous to let
people come to close to him. That will not change just because LV
would promise him to let the werewolves be. The werewolves side with
LV not for acceptance but to be able to get victims without someone
stopping them. Lupin never had the urge to want to be like that. He
never wanted to be responsible for turning another person into
something he doesn't want to be himself.
The better life he wants for the werewolves has nothing to do with
the werewolf part of their being but with the human part. LV is not
offering them recognition as humans but just that they can be
werewolves all they like. That is not an ambition Lupin has of
wanting to be. He wants acceptance that he is a human with a
problem, not a werewolf that needs to be able to pick his victims
freely. LV has nothing to offer what Lupin truly wants, not for
himself and not for the werewolves.
TKJ:
> Lupin thinks about it and doesn't want to help him but is scared by
> the idea of what is going to happen to him when he isn't needed by
> the Order anymore and the WW is happily free of LV and how he will
> most likely be treated badly and turns on the Order and helps LV.
Dana:
Lupin was never scared of what is going to happen to him, he was
always prepared to not be accepted for what he was. The only thing
he was scared of is that his friends would not accept him as a
friend if they found out his secret but no one ever did, not even
right after DD's death as they encourage him to show his feelings
for Tonks. Lupin wants to be liked by his friends and why he cuts
them more slack then he ought too but that is a long way from
betraying his friends because he is scared of what the WW thinks of
him.
LV is not able to give him the acceptance Lupin wants because
joining up with LV will not take away the bigotry or make it able
for Lupin to be accepted as a Wizard. LV will just be able to
provide easy accessible meat and that is not what drives Lupin. It
is not Lupin's werewolf side that graves for acceptance but his
human side and the werewolves turning to LV will just make the WW
fear the werewolves even more because they will be living up to the
fear people have for them. I think people should cut Lupin some
slack because he never gave in to the struggle he endured living
among the WW population while it would have been easier to just join
the werewolves and live among them. Also the werewolves do not trust
Lupin either because he has been living among wizards.
The change for werewolves will not come from an outside source and
LV can not provide that for Lupin either. The only way werewolves
can live among the WW population is if they would want to live among
them as fellow humans and not prey on them. The more werewolves
acknowledge that they are humans for the most part and just
werewolves once a month, the more they would be able to be part of
society but as long as they want to be werewolves and deny their
human identity of their being then they will never be able to get
closer to acceptance. They will just live up to the fear people have
for them. Change does not happen from the outside but from the
inside. It is not the WW that has to accept werewolves but
werewolves wanting to be part of society, if they do not then
acceptance from the other side does not matter. The same goes for
Remus, he has to accept that people who care for him to accept him
for WHO he is and not reject him for WHAT he is. Some people will
but they are not the people you want to as your friend anyway and
that will never change not even if the WW publicly acknowledges
werewolves.
Also I very much doubt that JKR, who is against bigotry, will make
the person, she gave a problem that would cause him to endure a lot
of such bigotry, live up to that bigotry by making him a traitor.
Lupin is a much stronger person then people give him credit for and
he is definitely not a person that only thinks of himself even if it
seems that way because he was scared to lose DD's trust by revealing
the truth of what the marauders did when they were young. Sure it
was a mistake but that does not mean he will be going to run to LV
because he is to scared to face the upcoming war as a person and is
to scared of what might happen to him personally. It was only DD's
trust he did not want to lose.
JMHO
Dana
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