Were the Longbottom's in Hiding too?
Karina Aleksandrova
caleksandrova at gmail.com
Mon Jun 11 04:53:04 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 170118
TKJ wrote:
>
> This just came to me and I don't remember if it was stated in any of
> the books but since DD had heard the prophecy and knew it could have
> been one of the two families were the Longbottom's hidden too? Did
> they have a secret keeper? Was this mentioned anywhere?
>
> It just seems odd to me that all this protection was put into place
> for the Potters but nothing at all for Neville and his family. If
> that was the case why just the Potters then? What information did
> they have that lead them to only protect them and not the
> Longbottoms as well.
Karina:
The Longbottoms must not have had a secret keeper, or at least like
the Potters -- not a reliable one, because the Death-Eaters did find
them after the Voldemort's downfall and torture them for the
information about the Potters.
I would imagine that they had the information from Snape, who knew
which family Lord Voldemort selected, as that was (in Dumbledore's
opinion) the reason why he returned:
"But he did not know - he had no possible way of knowing - which boy
Voldemort would hunt from then onward, or that the parents he would
destroy in his murderous quest were the people that Professor Snape
knew, that they were your mother and father [...] You have no idea of
the remorse Professor Snape felt when he realized how Lord Voldemort
had intepreted the prophecy, Harry. I believe it to be the greatest
regret of his life and the reason that he returned -" (HBP, Ch. 25)
TKJ:
>
> Plus, the entire Order doesn't know about the prophecy so how would
> DD have explained the need to hide these two specific families? Or
> the need to only hide the Potters?
Karina:
I think Dumbledore could merely explain that Snape knew of Voldemort's
plans as a former DE and now spy for "the right side". No doubt the
Order of the Phoenix would not find it strange that Voldemort decided
to hunt down one of the families in the Order who have already "thrice
defied him", that he'd want them finished.
VexingConfection:
<snipping down to the questions>
> Here's my question-
> 1-what was Snape really doing there that day? Did he go to get a
> job, spy for LV, both or another reason?
> 2-Dumbledore told Harry that he knew Snape had told LV of the
> prophecy- was that the reason that Dumbledore had trusted him or did
> Dumble merely keep him close for observation also?
> 3-Snape was never trusted with the DADA class-what was the reasoning
> for that?
> 4-Could Snape have been finally given the DADA class to prove to LV
> that he had won Dumbledore's trust and Snape was actually working
> for Dumbledore all along? I read a really good fanfic to this
> effect- if it's not true- I wish it was.
Karina:
1) Yes, probably both. Dumbledore indicates that Snape was still in
Voldemort's employ, when he heard the prophecy, and naturally he
reported what he heard that day. It was also Voldemort's wish that
Snape apply for a position at Hogwarts, to spy on Dumbledore, so it's
possible he was there for that reason too. There may also be other
reasons that we don't yet know.
2) No to both questions. I do think that Dumbledore didn't reveal the
full reason why he trusted Snape's remorse (and we will find out about
it, most likely). And at the same time I emphatically believe that
Dumbledore didn't have a single doubt in Snape return. He vouched for
him on several occasions before the Ministry of Magic, before the
members of the Order and Harry. He wouldn't let anyone speak against him.
3) Well, that was the implied reason throughout 5 books, but now we
know more, and the obvious (to me) reason why Dumbledore didn't let
Snape teach DADA is because he knew the position has been cursed by
Lord Voldemort. He didn't want to lose Snape like the many many
teachers of the DADA that change every year. He perhaps felt that
Snape would be useful still as a spy and as a skillful potioneer, when
Voldemort returns (and Dumbledore knew that sooner or later it would
happen).
4) No, this premise doesn't make sense to me. If Dumbledore suddenly
after so many years begins to trust Snape, why give him the position
that is cursed, so that he'd lose his trusted ally within a year?
Karina
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