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Dana ida3 at planet.nl
Mon Jun 11 20:32:43 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170150

> Carol responds:
> While I agree with you that thinking that Snape provided the names 
of the DEs who were arrested or killed is an assumption, that 
information had to come from somewhere. The Death Eaters and 
Voldemort are not going to provide it to Barty Crouch and the MoM, 
and we're told that snape turned spy for "our side at great personal 
risk." Where would the risk come from if he weren't providing 
valuable information, and what would be more valuable than the names 
of the Death Eaters? (He would not be doing it, like Karkaroff, to 
save his own skin and get out of Azkaban; he would be doing it to 
atone for his mistake of informing LV of the Prophecy, and he would 
be reporting to DD directly rather than to the MoM.)

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Dana:
Him telling DD about the Potters would also be risking his life 
because LV was obsessed with killing Harry because LV believed he was 
the one that could lead to him being vanquished. If it has come to 
LV's ear that someone within his own circle was trying to prevent him 
getting to Harry then the life of that DE was soon to be history. 

You are now also assuming that the lead on Rosier and Wilkes was 
provided by the Order while there is no such thing suggested in 
canon. Sirius does not imply that information from the Order lead to 
these men's arrest and neither does Barty in the pensieve scene. 

You want to make the MoM and the auror's into incompetent people that 
could not find a fly on their own if it landed on their face and that 
only Severus Snape could have provided that information otherwise the 
MoM would never have been able to find one single DE on their own. 
Many DEs did not work as conspicuously as Snape did and many were 
very proud of their activity. 

Karkaroff testified after LV's down fall when many of the DEs had 
stopped their activity to evade being sent to Azkaban and thus them 
no longer implicating themselves or by being caught red-handedly. 
Crouch just wanted to send more DEs to Azkaban but as we see he could 
not get everyone convicted like for instance Ludo, Lucius and Avery. 

It is just an assumption that the MoM could not have gotten their 
leads on Rosier and Wilkes on their own or that every lead they had 
had to come from somewhere and therefore the only probably assumption 
would be Severus Snape. It hasn't been suggested in canon that the 
information came from DD through one of his spies and never has it 
been implicated by the other side that Snape sold out his DE friends 
like Karkaroff did. 

It is giving Snape a little more credit then canon implies and as I 
stated above Snape giving DD information on the Potters and LV's 
plans with them is enough to consider it at great personal risk and 
as we see Snape considers him spying on LV after his rise back to 
power a great personal risk as well and we do not see it envolved 
selling out anyone personally either.  

JMHO

Dana






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