Neither Harry nor his Scar is a Horcrux (Was Re: Voldemort's Age)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 170271

Steve/bboyminn:
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> Now, because the rebounding AK is such a rare and 
> unusual event, there could have been some special
> circumstances that allowed a stray bit of Voldemort's
> soul to seek the nearest warm body. That warm body
> being Harry, but that is a huge unfounded speculation.
> 
> A Horcrux might have been created, but Voldemort, by
> no means, did the creating. If it happened, it was 
> just a random fluke of magic.

Jen: I believe this will be the explanation rather than anything 
connected to a real or accidental Horcrux.  I wouldn't say it's 
completely speculative however since there's canon in place which 
would explain such an event.  I'm not suggesting anything you don't 
know Steve, but the outline for what might have occurred is clear in 
the story, at least as clear as the idea of powers and/or Voldemort's 
magic being inside Harry to explain their connection.  Here it is: 

A) There's a mechanism in place for a soul piece to be completely 
torn off from a whole soul if someone commits murder. 

B)  Two murders were committed at GH and therefore two soul pieces 
were torn off.

C)  A completely unexpected and unique event occurred when the AK 
rebounded and Harry was both 'marked' with a scar and acquired some 
of Voldemort's powers, an event explained by Dumbledore as 
Voldemort 'putting a bit of himself' into Harry.

D)  The two share more than powers as the story progresses, including 
being able to think each other's thoughts and feel each other's 
feelings.

E) 'Neither can live while the other survives,' can have several 
interpretations including a metaphorical one.  My thought is 'living' 
constitutes what makes up a life, i.e., thoughts, feelings, actions  
and for wizards, magical powers.  So Harry and LV are sharing more 
than powers as the story progresses, they are sharing elements of 
what it means to be alive.  A living soul piece would be a reason for 
this while a transmission of powers appears to be an incomplete 
explanation for what they share.


Steve/bboy:
> But, the problem with this theory is that the fount
> of all knowledge about the connection between Harry
> and Voldemort, as well as our source of knowledge
> about Horcruxes, an additional fount of magical 
> knowledge, and our authority on the general Harry/
> Voldemort dynamic is all Dumbledore, and Dumbledore,
> while he seems to understand the connection, gives
> no indication that he thinks the bit of Voldemort in
> Harry is a piece of Voldemort's soul. 

Jen:  This is the hardest obstacle to overcome in my opinion and yet 
JKR has again provided possibilities which are part of Dumbledore's 
character to explain why he didn't pursue a soul piece with Harry:  
Perhaps Dumbledore envisioned the first conversation about Horcruxes 
as the time to introduce the topic and not bring up events at GH, 
especially - as Pippin noted - if he wasn't certain.  Perhaps he 
expected to have another opportunity to broach the topic with Harry 
and died first.  Perhaps this was one of the occasions in book 6 JKR 
was referring to when she said, "immense brainpower does not protect 
you from  emotional mistakes..." in reference to Dumbledore, meaning 
he couldn't bear the thought of Harry having a piece of LV in him and 
what that would mean.  An obstacle, yes, but not an insurmountable 
one in my opinion.  

Jen