Neither Harry nor his Scar is a Horcrux (Was Re: Voldemort's Age)

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 170364

Neri:
 Nah,
> JKR has a much better sense of drama than that, and she's much better
> at descriptions. 

Pippin:
Yet the fabled department of mysteries makes its debut as a
plain black door set at the end of a corridor. The Room of Requirement
appears first as a room full of chamber pots. No, a candlelit room
with a velvet chair and a mirror will be quite enough to identify the
place should we see it again. 

 > Pippin:
> > Also, from the story-telling point of view, JKR needs to make
> > it plausible that Harry has to go after Voldemort alone, not
> > with an army of aurors for backup. 
> > 
> 
> Neri:
> It doesn't seem plausible to me. If the soul bit has now become a part
> of Harry, then Harry is a SK and he can tell anyone where the
> (hypothetical) HQ is. If the soul is separate from Harry's soul, why
> would it divulge the secret to Harry when it has been so good at
> concealing even its own very existence?

Pippin:
I doubt very much Harry would let himself be possessed by even
a fragment of Voldemort's soul. OTOH, he might be able to possess
*it*. If that happened, then he would know what it knows, but he
still, IMO, wouldn't be able to divulge the secret to anyone else. 


> > Pippin:
> > I don't think SK stops you from guessing, it just
> > keeps you from knowing that your guess is correct and keeps
> > anyone who does know the secret from telling you your guess
> > is correct.
> > 
> 
> Neri:
> In that case the Fidelius doesn't seem to be very effective after all.
> It was enough for Sirius to merely suspect Lupin in order to hide the
> critical information about the SK switch from him.

> 
Pippin:
I'm not sure at all that Sirius succeeded in hiding the SK switch
from Lupin. He thought he did, and Lupin allowed him to think so,
perhaps. But what proof do we have? Pettigrew's confession? Do
you think that's the sort of confession a civil rights advocate like
JKR would want us to believe is valid? Extracted at wand point,
with no witnesses present to speak in defense? Phooey!

In any case, I'm sure Dumbledore hid information from various
Order members in his attempts to thwart or catch out the spy. 
Voldemort would of course have to be very careful as to how
he used the information, whether it was Peter's or Lupin's,
in order not to give his spy away.

But that's all standard espionage stuff, and the presence
or absence of Secret Keeper doesn't change it. 

> 
> Neri:
> Then it was rather stupid of him to insist so vehemently that Sirius
> was the one who betrayed the Potters.
>

Pippin:
Of course only the secret keeper could have betrayed the Potters.
But why do the secret keeper and the spy have to be the same
person? They don't, and there's no reason that Snape would
have to believe they are. 


Pippin