Leglimancy and Voldemort

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 170369

limerent wrote:
>
> In book 5 Snape tells Harry that eye contact is necessary for
> leglimancy except in Harry's case because of the bond they seem to
> have.  But in Book 4 Voldemort is able to tell that Frank is lying
> even though the chair is still turned away from Frank at that point. 
> And a bit earlier Voldemort could tell Wormtail was lying though it
> seems they didn't have eye contact either as it made a big deal of the
> fear/disgust/reluctance each time Wormtail had to look at Voldemort. 
> So is Voldemort that good at leglimancy, even better than Snape
> thinks, that he doesn't need eye contact?  And what would this slip of
> judgement mean for Snape if it is true?
> 

colebiancardi:

Actually, Snape tells Harry that "eye contact is OFTEN essential to
Legilimency" (caps mine) Am Ed Hardcover OotP, p 531, not that is is
necessary.  The full quote is (same page)
"The Dark Lord is at a considerable distance and the walls and grounds
of Hogwards are guarded by many ancient spells and charms to ensure
the bodily and mental safety of those who dwell within them," said
Snape.  "Time and space matter in magic, Potter.  Eye contact is often
necessary to Legilimency."
Well then, why do I have to learn Occlumency?"
Snape eyed Harry, tracing his mouth with one long, thin finger as he
did so.
"The usual rules do not seem to apply with you, Potter.  The curse
that failed to kill you seems to have forged some kind of connection
between you & the Dark Lord.  The evidence suggests that at times,
when your mind is most relaxed and vulnerable -- when you are asleep,
for instance -- you are sharing the Dark Lord's thoughts and emotions"

So, Snape is stating that there are many factors why normal
Legilimency wouldn't work at Hogwarts with Voldemort - time, space,
the ancient spells & charms - eye contact is important, but not
"often" necessary.  

As far as Frank goes, take in the fact that he was just a muggle.  No
magic about him at all.  He does not have any spells or charms
protecting him, and is within the same time & space as Voldy.  As
Voldemort is a powerful Legilimens, a muggle would be quite easy for
him, no?

Snape didn't have a slip of judgement - he knows, as we've read, that
one can perform Legilimency without eye contact.  We also know that
Snape is very good at Occlumency (thru the book)

colebiancardi